Why was O'Brien not an officer? - Page 2

Dream · January 23 2013, 11:58 PM

Worf'sParmach wrote:

MacLeod wrote:

Something I've always thought was a missed opportunity was to have O'Brien in FC. For one thing, Meaney was a fairly recognizable face in those days, but I mean just have him aboard the Enterprise. Geordi would have put him in charge, and none of his officers would have thought twice about it. Obviously, it would have had to have been rewritten since the guy Geordi did put in charge was Borgified right away, but you get the idea.

Agreed. I think he's been in more non-Trek movies than anyone else save for Patrick Stewart perhaps. Then again, they may have had to pay him more because of that.

I think a cameo for O'Brien in FC would have been fine like the Doctor in sickbay, but anything more than that and they would have needed to give Meaney a main cast credit, but the producers were unwilling to do that.

Nerys Myk · January 24 2013, 12:13 AM

He's an officer, a Chief Petty Officer.

LobsterAfternoon · January 24 2013, 12:50 AM

From a creative standpoint, they probably made him a non-com because it makes him moderately unique and gives him a different perspective from other Starfleet types.

MacLeod · January 24 2013, 01:02 AM

CorporalClegg wrote:

I think the TNG wardrobe issue was simply a matter of not wasting the costume budget on such a small character.

I think the intention in TNG was that O'Brien had attened the academy and was a comissioned officer.

If they wanted him as an NCO in TNG they could have just left the rank pips off.

CorporalClegg · January 24 2013, 01:03 AM

Worf'sParmach wrote:

MacLeod wrote:

Something I've always thought was a missed opportunity was to have O'Brien in FC. For one thing, Meaney was a fairly recognizable face in those days, but I mean just have him aboard the Enterprise. Geordi would have put him in charge, and none of his officers would have thought twice about it. Obviously, it would have had to have been rewritten since the guy Geordi did put in charge was Borgified right away, but you get the idea.

Agreed. I think he's been in more non-Trek movies than anyone else save for Patrick Stewart perhaps. Then again, they may have had to pay him more because of that.

MacLeod and I think a lot alike.

Great minds and all...

Skywalker · January 24 2013, 01:05 AM

MacLeod wrote:

CorporalClegg wrote:

I think the TNG wardrobe issue was simply a matter of not wasting the costume budget on such a small character.

I think the intention in TNG was that O'Brien had attened the academy and was a comissioned officer.

If they wanted him as an NCO in TNG they could have just left the rank pips off.

Didn't they actually start referring to O'Brien as an enlisted man in TNG?

Nerys Myk · January 24 2013, 02:32 AM

Skywalker wrote:

MacLeod wrote:

CorporalClegg wrote:

I think the TNG wardrobe issue was simply a matter of not wasting the costume budget on such a small character.

I think the intention in TNG was that O'Brien had attened the academy and was a comissioned officer.

If they wanted him as an NCO in TNG they could have just left the rank pips off.

Didn't they actually start referring to O'Brien as an enlisted man in TNG?

"Family" officially made O'Brien an enlisted chief.

admiral_reliant · January 24 2013, 04:00 AM

O'Brien could have been in first contact but as part of the Defiant's crew, where he, and Dax would have been anyway, but as it cost alot to get Worf on the movie, they couldnt find the budget.

Each series of Star Trek has different rights and contracts for the staff, making thier release to other series or movies difficult.

This is also shown whenever there is a crossover episode - One TNG character, Picard in DS9 Pilot, and one DS9 character in Voy pilot, Quark, and Bashir being the only DS9 character in TNG episode "Birthright" (note: only part 1)

LobsterAfternoon · January 24 2013, 06:35 AM

How much did it cost to get Worf?

MacLeod · January 24 2013, 11:54 AM

A better cameo for O'Brein might have been Nemesis at the wedding, after all they got Wes.

R. Star · January 24 2013, 01:26 PM

Nerys Myk wrote:

He's an officer, a Chief Petty Officer.

Tell a navy CPO that... he'd kick your ass.

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January 24 2013, 12:50 AM	#18
LobsterAfternoon Commander	Re: Why was O'Brien not an officer? From a creative standpoint, they probably made him a non-com because it makes him moderately unique and gives him a different perspective from other Starfleet types.

January 24 2013, 04:00 AM	#23
admiral_reliant Ensign	Re: Why was O'Brien not an officer? O'Brien could have been in first contact but as part of the Defiant's crew, where he, and Dax would have been anyway, but as it cost alot to get Worf on the movie, they couldnt find the budget. Each series of Star Trek has different rights and contracts for the staff, making thier release to other series or movies difficult. This is also shown whenever there is a crossover episode - One TNG character, Picard in DS9 Pilot, and one DS9 character in Voy pilot, Quark, and Bashir being the only DS9 character in TNG episode "Birthright" (note: only part 1)

January 24 2013, 06:35 AM	#24
LobsterAfternoon Commander	Re: Why was O'Brien not an officer? How much did it cost to get Worf?

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