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Old January 23 2013, 10:37 AM   #376
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Well, given that they've already mashed together Grimm's fairy tales, the Arabian Nights, Greek mythology, Arthurian legendry, Chinese folk tales, Alice in Wonderland, Pinocchio, Peter Pan, and Frankenstein (with, apparently, Hans Christian Andersen and L. Frank Baum on the way),
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Here's a question. Does Disney exist in the world of Storybrooke?
And, if not, how does it effect contemporary culture? That's what I've always wondered about those modern-day Sherlock Holmes series; there's never any ramifications to there being no fictional Holmes.
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Old January 23 2013, 01:31 PM   #377
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^^^You know the final scene of the series has already been written, don't you? It's repurposed/tweaked footage of Walt Disney introducing a new program, called Once Upon a Time.
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Old January 23 2013, 04:24 PM   #378
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Aren't the characters aware that they exist as Fairy Tale characters in the real world? So why wouldn't Disney exist there?
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Old January 23 2013, 04:42 PM   #379
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Many of the fairy tales and other fictional characters being referenced are older than Disney itself, which has become something of a central clearing house for such things. It could be argued that many of these stories could have their roots in much older kinds of mythology that have been repackaged by Disney at a later time for children's consumption. I'm not a student of fairy tale history, but that would be my guess.
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Old January 23 2013, 05:17 PM   #380
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Many of the fairy tales and other fictional characters being referenced are older than Disney itself, which has become something of a central clearing house for such things. It could be argued that many of these stories could have their roots in much older kinds of mythology that have been repackaged by Disney at a later time for children's consumption. I'm not a student of fairy tale history, but that would be my guess.
The homogenization and sanitation of Fairy Tales predate Disney. Though I'm fairly certain that names like Belle (Beauty and the Beast), Aurora, Phillip and Malecifent (Sleeping Beauty) originated with Disney. So the versions we see in Once Upon a Time are influenced by the Disney versions.
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Old January 23 2013, 05:38 PM   #381
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Many of the fairy tales and other fictional characters being referenced are older than Disney itself, which has become something of a central clearing house for such things. It could be argued that many of these stories could have their roots in much older kinds of mythology that have been repackaged by Disney at a later time for children's consumption. I'm not a student of fairy tale history, but that would be my guess.
The homogenization and sanitation of Fairy Tales predate Disney. Though I'm fairly certain that names like Belle (Beauty and the Beast), Aurora, Phillip and Malecifent (Sleeping Beauty) originated with Disney. So the versions we see in Once Upon a Time are influenced by the Disney versions.
Ditto for the names of the Seven Dwarves: Grumpy, Doc, Sneezy, etc. Those were invented for the Disney version.
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Old January 23 2013, 06:54 PM   #382
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Yeah, I was referring more to the Grimm-related stories (which included Rumpelstiltskin), Werewolves and Frankenstein.
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Old January 23 2013, 07:21 PM   #383
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Werewolves aren't exactly Fairy Tales and neither is Frankenstein. Though I suppose there could be a connection between the wolf character(s) seen in Red Riding Hood and The Three Little Pigs and the Werewolf legend.

Yes, the folk tales, myth and legends are all pretty old. The Grimms' version of the stories only date back to the 1800s and are taken from earlier ones. Even the Grimms edited the stories to make them more child friendly. (Apparently there were complaints about the first edition).
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Old January 23 2013, 11:02 PM   #384
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^^^You know the final scene of the series has already been written, don't you? It's repurposed/tweaked footage of Walt Disney introducing a new program, called Once Upon a Time.
Something like that would actually be pretty cool.
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Old January 24 2013, 06:53 AM   #385
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Aren't the characters aware that they exist as Fairy Tale characters in the real world?
I'm kind of annoyed that they've never really addressed the connection between the characters and our centuries old fairy tales. If the characters only came to Storybrooke 28 years ago, does that mean that they were immortal or aged really slowly in the fairy tale world so they could predate our versions of their stories? How did people in our world learn about them in order to tell the stories?
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Old January 24 2013, 07:02 AM   #386
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What I want to know is this....

How the heck are they going to explain how Storybrooke survives as a thriving town?

-Where does the food come from for Granny's Dinner?
-Where do the medical Supplies come from for Frankenstein's Hospital?
-Where does the Gas come from that supplies the Gas Station?
-If the curse prevented outsiders from entering the town limits for 28 years? how did the town have internet in the very first episode? Who installed it? Where does the town get power?

Were magics in place to provide all these things previously? If so, are they still in play? If not, they've got more to worry about than strangers in town. They're going to run out of modern supplies in no time at all.

Seriously, why has no one addressed this crap in the show?
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Old January 24 2013, 07:04 AM   #387
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I never thought about any of that before.
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Old January 24 2013, 07:10 AM   #388
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Time probably flows different in the other worlds.

Their connection with us could be many things.

They could be a product of our collective subconscious. Our tellings, believing and retellings of the legends, myths and fables actually brought them into existence. Or perhaps the worlds of fantasy are linked to us via dreams. (an idea actually touched upon in the series) So the fairy tales are our interpretations of these"dreams". Obviously sometimes things get lost in the "translation".
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Old January 24 2013, 07:12 AM   #389
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Yeah, those sound like they could be pretty probable. It would just be nice if it was addressed in the show eventually.
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Old January 24 2013, 07:20 AM   #390
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We already know time passes differently. They've been in Storybrooke for 28 years. Yet if that amount of time had passed in fairytale world, Hook should be an old man by now.
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