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Old January 23 2013, 07:31 AM   #76
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Mirror, Mirror is a Kirk/Spock slash tale?
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Old January 23 2013, 08:33 AM   #77
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When Kirk tells Marlena, "You're the captain's woman, until he says you're not," he's really thinking of Spock.
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Old January 23 2013, 08:42 AM   #78
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Mirror, Mirror is a Kirk/Spock slash tale?
After researching what that is, I can only say, you have totally missed the point.

That simple MIRROR, MIRROR example serves to illustrate one of the most glaring examples,.. which literally BEGS the answer of the question:

"Between the so-called Evil, and the so-called Good, which is TRULY is the fairest in the Land?

But, I guess if one does not THINK about why these writers choose the words they do, one can also ONLY come to ONE conclusion - which is not the deeper truth.

Exactly why it would make good reasoning to cast LIBERACE as a proposed substitute actor for the role AtoZ,..

Again,, you have to ask the question, you must dig, dig, dig,.... LIBER, a Latin noun (genative LIBRI, 2nd declination) = BOOK,.. ACE a colloquialism for EXPERT,... A BOOK EXPERT is exactly what a Librarian should be

False conclusions, preconceived prejudices of the mind and non-though-out assumptions, make clear vision impossible - and will hide the inner-stories from those who do not have the eyes to see.
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Old January 23 2013, 08:59 AM   #79
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When Kirk tells Marlena, "You're the captain's woman, until he says you're not," he's really thinking of Spock.
Of course, and in both universes the Spocks are doing everything they can to get their Kirks back. Hence, why she can be cast off so easily, she's gone once they have their respective other halves back.
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Old January 23 2013, 11:54 AM   #80
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Mirror, Mirror is a Kirk/Spock slash tale?
After researching what that is, I can only say, you have totally missed the point.

That simple MIRROR, MIRROR example serves to illustrate one of the most glaring examples,.. which literally BEGS the answer of the question:

"Between the so-called Evil, and the so-called Good, which is TRULY is the fairest in the Land?

But, I guess if one does not THINK about why these writers choose the words they do, one can also ONLY come to ONE conclusion - which is not the deeper truth.

Exactly why it would make good reasoning to cast LIBERACE as a proposed substitute actor for the role AtoZ,..

Again,, you have to ask the question, you must dig, dig, dig,.... LIBER, a Latin noun (genative LIBRI, 2nd declination) = BOOK,.. ACE a colloquialism for EXPERT,... A BOOK EXPERT is exactly what a Librarian should be

False conclusions, preconceived prejudices of the mind and non-though-out assumptions, make clear vision impossible - and will hide the inner-stories from those who do not have the eyes to see.
Ah, I see quite clearly now!

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Old January 23 2013, 02:28 PM   #81
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This is why normal people beat up Mensa members.

Just sayin'.

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Old January 23 2013, 04:38 PM   #82
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The Star Trek Code, by Captain Tracy. Coming to a bookstore near you!
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Old January 23 2013, 07:50 PM   #83
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If the writers wanted to get the message across that someone is a book expert, they would name the character "Liberace" not cast Liberace in the role.
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Old January 23 2013, 08:35 PM   #84
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This thread has hurt my brain.
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Old January 23 2013, 10:52 PM   #85
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If the writers wanted to get the message across that someone is a book expert, they would name the character "Liberace" not cast Liberace in the role.
Any more than they would purposefully cast famed Attorney MELVIN BELLI, The King of Torts, to play the Gorgon in 'And The Children Shall Lead?

A LAWYER playing a LAIR?

Tricky thing about those "Stone-age" STAR TREK writers, you have to look all around. Sometimes the clues are in what the characters say, and sometimes in what they do (being two things which do not always work in concert), and sometimes you just have to think real hard about the effort that went into to trying to get you to think for yourself.
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If the writers wanted to get the message across that someone is a book expert, they would name the character "Liberace" not cast Liberace in the role.
Any more than they would purposefully cast famed Attorney MELVIN BELLI, The King of Torts, to play the Gorgon in 'And The Children Shall Lead?

A LAWYER playing a LAIR?
Belli was a friend of Roddenberry's if I remember correctly.
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Old January 23 2013, 11:18 PM   #87
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If the writers wanted to get the message across that someone is a book expert, they would name the character "Liberace" not cast Liberace in the role.
Any more than they would purposefully cast famed Attorney MELVIN BELLI, The King of Torts, to play the Gorgon in 'And The Children Shall Lead?

A LAWYER playing a LAIR?
Belli was a friend of Roddenberry's if I remember correctly.
CORRECT BILLJ

Ah,.. light bulbs are turning-on,.. connections being made,....

And wouldn't that make sense, to convince him to play in this veiled allegory about the potential and pending resultant disaster as the unknowing innocents (The Children) trusting and following these Lawyers to lead a society,..... a favor between friends,.. of course, who else would?

Go back and watch ATCSL - with THAT understanding,.. flip it around,.. and flip the TITLE,.. And the Lawyers Shall Lead,...

Seems not just prophetic, but 'spot-on' in our overly litigious society of today, where the corrupt with legal power within the SYSTEM (A Roman word for SEWER) are leading the innocent and trusting to their ruin.

Oh, that couldn't possibly be one of those many hidden warnings to the future of mankind peppered throughout the stories, ONE OF THE LEAST LIKED STORIES,.. and not surprisingly MOST MISUNDERSTOOD MESSAGE.

Good connection BillJ,.. You found the KEY.

Keep thinking that way, and you may have to watch the entire series all over again,.. but SEEING it for the first time from the inside out.

But then again,.. maybe those writers were just a bunch of 'Stone-Aged' hacks after all,... as so many on here like to trumpet in unison.
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Old January 23 2013, 11:42 PM   #88
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If the writers wanted to get the message across that someone is a book expert, they would name the character "Liberace" not cast Liberace in the role.
Any more than they would purposefully cast famed Attorney MELVIN BELLI, The King of Torts, to play the Gorgon in 'And The Children Shall Lead?
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A LAWYER playing a LAIR?

Tricky thing about those "Stone-age" STAR TREK writers, you have to look all around. Sometimes the clues are in what the characters say, and sometimes in what they do (being two things which do not always work in concert), and sometimes you just have to think real hard about the effort that went into to trying to get you to think for yourself.
Yes, because Belli would love to appear in a role the plays into the demeaning stereotypes of his profession.

Obviously Memory Alpha has been fooled by some clever deception, no doubt instigated by a lawyer.
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I have no idea what you're on about. I'm just one of the simple sheep.
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Old January 23 2013, 11:58 PM   #90
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Belli was simply stunt casting back then. I think it even got one of those little TV Guide Close-up thingies.

When I saw it in first run, I thought WTF is he doing on this show.
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