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Old January 15 2013, 08:59 PM   #1
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Marina Sirtis make up on the HD verison.

It is utter terrible. It is not just the case of over doing it but you can see when the light is on her face you can see a white band going cross her eyes. I never remember that on the original TV releases. A case for HD releases does some harm. Anyone else notice this?
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Old January 15 2013, 09:05 PM   #2
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Re: Marina Sirtis make up on the HD verison.

If you think that's bad, check the big screen lighting of her face in the bluddy stupid "Remember Me" bit in Nemesis!
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Old January 15 2013, 10:36 PM   #3
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Re: Marina Sirtis make up on the HD verison.

Yeah there are moments when her makeup looks pretty bad, but I think that mainly just comes down to the garish 80s time period. In the later seasons, when they relax her look a little bit, I'm sure her makeup will look a lot better.
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Old January 15 2013, 11:57 PM   #4
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Re: Marina Sirtis make up on the HD verison.

I always thought she looked better in the later seasons too.

To be fair though, I've noticed in quite a few shows that now bask in their HD glory (Friends - I'm looking at you), you can see how much they used to smother the make-up on to make people look right for cameras. New technology makes that technique redundant, so it can be distracting to see all the slap actors really had on.
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Old January 16 2013, 07:54 PM   #5
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Re: Marina Sirtis make up on the HD verison.

Nothing new here. I noticed it way back in 1987 watching the original episodes via a 22" TV.
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Old January 19 2013, 06:12 AM   #6
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Re: Marina Sirtis make up on the HD verison.

This reminds me of that episode ("The big goodbye" I think?) where Beverly is trying to figure out the little make up kits from the 1930's. I think the implication was that in the 24th century, women no longer needed to use make up on their faces, so the idea was confusing her.

And I'm thinking "yeah who are you kidding, I can see the artistry being done by professional make up artists on your face for the show!"

But hey, even the men had to get made up. Didn't they want to put a wig on Patrick Stewart at the beginning of the series?
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Old January 21 2013, 12:33 AM   #7
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Re: Marina Sirtis make up on the HD verison.

I don't think it was ever implied that women didn't use makeup during the TNG era. The impression I got was that it was a lot BETTER kind of makeup that didn't require all that touching up and so on that we have to put up with now. Don't even get me started on lipstick...

Anyway, I'm thinking in particular of the episode "The Outcast" - the one with the androgynous species. That includes a brief discussion on cosmetics between Beverly and Soren, and it's clear from the conversation that Beverly takes it as a given that many human females, including herself, do wear makeup.

But as for the bad makeup, they just used waaaaay too much on most/all of the female actors, and it was the really obvious sort of makeup, with enough blusher and bronzer to coat a battleship. (Apparently they had never heard of the natural look? ) I noticed it even at the time of the original broadcasts.

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Old January 21 2013, 02:03 PM   #8
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Re: Marina Sirtis make up on the HD verison.

During the initial broadcasts, I remember a female co-worker in the office - who was at best a casual viewer - commenting about Crusher's way over made-up appearance on last night's episode.
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Old January 22 2013, 07:40 PM   #9
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Re: Marina Sirtis make up on the HD verison.

She has a face? I find it difficult to lift my gaze above her neck. I am such a weak man.

Considering that sheís an empath, itís a good thing I donít work with her. Could I be disciplined for creating a hostile work environment just by thinking dirty thoughts that she perceives? Jellico is probably doing the right thing when he tells her to cover up.
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Old January 22 2013, 10:29 PM   #10
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She has a face? I find it difficult to lift my gaze above her neck. I am such a weak man.

Considering that sheís an empath, itís a good thing I donít work with her. Could I be disciplined for creating a hostile work environment just by thinking dirty thoughts that she perceives? Jellico is probably doing the right thing when he tells her to cover up.
I've thought about this too! Frankly, I'd be squirming, I'd be looking at her thinking "damn, you're so hot", knowing full well she'd be zoning in on my desires!!!
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Old January 22 2013, 10:33 PM   #11
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I reckon she gets off on sensing those 'desires' in the people around her. Why else would she walk around wearing those leotards all the time?
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Old January 22 2013, 10:40 PM   #12
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Re: Marina Sirtis make up on the HD verison.

I wonder how season fives' big cameltoe scene is going to go over in HD!!
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Old January 22 2013, 10:55 PM   #13
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I wonder how season fives' big cameltoe scene is going to go over in HD!!
That depends on how much DNR they put on it.
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Old January 23 2013, 12:48 AM   #14
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Re: Marina Sirtis make up on the HD verison.

I find her make-up to be horrendous in HD. I also think, though that they had to do it up a bit for the ancient lighting to pick it up on camera. But hey, everything looked scary in the 80's and 90's. *lol* At least she had some color. Could you imagine what she would look like if they'd done her up kind of gothic and then restored it in HD? Hilariously laughable, I think.
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Old January 23 2013, 06:05 PM   #15
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Re: Marina Sirtis make up on the HD verison.

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She has a face? I find it difficult to lift my gaze above her neck. I am such a weak man.

Considering that sheís an empath, itís a good thing I donít work with her. Could I be disciplined for creating a hostile work environment just by thinking dirty thoughts that she perceives? Jellico is probably doing the right thing when he tells her to cover up.

I believe there was an episode where she was asked about someone specifically, and she mentioned that she felt just normal feelings, including a normal sexual desire for her, etc etc.

I thought that was a pretty cool scene actually, because every straight male is going to get aroused by seeing a hot female, but the implication is that this is understood to be instinctual (which it is) and it doesn't mean that that particular male actually wants to sleep with the hot female he's looking at.

It was a nice nod that in the 24th century, all this ridiculous sexual harrasment bullshit is going the way of the dodo.
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