"Terok Nor" and "Millenium"

theblitz · January 22 2013, 12:14 AM

Whilst trying to find my lost-a-home copy of Rising Son I was wondering what else to read.
Now reading Left Hand of Destiny.

Are the Terok Nor or Millenium trilogies worth getting?

Other possibilites are:

1. Go down the Klingon Empire branch.
2. Mirror Universe
3. Vaughn Background

Suggestions?

ronny · January 22 2013, 12:41 AM

The first book in the Terok Nor trilogy is great. The other 2 books are pretty good but aren't quite up to par with the first one. I thought this was the better of the 2 trilogies.

I liked the first book in the Millennium trilogy but each one after that got successfully worse for me and it was a steep drop, as in I didn't care for the third book much at all.

Thrawn · January 22 2013, 12:43 AM

I'd say that the usual opinion is that both aren't all-time classics, but both definitely have their high points. The first book of Terok Nor stands apart from the other two and is generally the favorite.

I think the Klingon Empire books are probably more interesting, on the whole, though it depends on your relative preference for Klingon culture and Bajor/Cardassia culture.

WarsTrek1993 · January 22 2013, 01:27 AM

theblitz wrote:

2. Mirror Universe
3. Vaughn Background

Suggestions?

The MU anthologies I've read are pretty well-good; Obsidian Alliances and Shards And Shadows. The Sorrows Of Empire is highly recommended, too, along with Rise Like Lions and, if you don't mind a break from continuity, Dark Mirror.

Vaughn Background: Hands-down the best books for that are Serpents Among The Ruins and The Art Of The Impossible. (I can't speak for the DS9 relaunch, I've not read it yet.)

Mr. Laser Beam · January 22 2013, 01:35 AM

Millennium is kind of weird, but it does have its moments (my favorite is the "dueling Starfleets"

).

Sci · January 22 2013, 02:18 AM

The first book in the Terk Nor trilogy, Day of the Vipers, is just bloody brilliant. It's the story of how Cardassia came into contact with Bajor, and gradually took it over; a great political thriller about how imperialism and greed corrupt a government and destroy a society.

WarsTrek1993 · January 22 2013, 02:32 AM

Sci wrote:

The first book in the Terk Nor trilogy, Day of the Vipers, is just bloody brilliant. It's the story of how Cardassia came into contact with Bajor, and gradually took it over; a great political thriller about how imperialism and greed corrupt a government and destroy a society.

I'll second this, and it also features a nice undercover Starfleet story in there!

JD · January 22 2013, 02:59 AM

Sci wrote:

The first book in the Terk Nor trilogy, Day of the Vipers, is just bloody brilliant. It's the story of how Cardassia came into contact with Bajor, and gradually took it over; a great political thriller about how imperialism and greed corrupt a government and destroy a society.

Yeah. DOV is one of my favorite Trek books I've ever read. The other two parts of the trilogy aren't quite as good, but are still worth reading.
I haven't read the Millenium trilogy yet (although I have owned them for years).

Thrawn · January 22 2013, 03:06 AM

Oh, I forgot to mention - for my money, the absolute best thing on your list of possibles is Serpents Among The Ruins from the Vaughn backstory section. DRG3 laying it down.

bullethead · January 22 2013, 03:23 AM

theblitz wrote:

1. Go down the Klingon Empire branch.
2. Mirror Universe

Do both. It's worth it.

JD · January 22 2013, 05:30 AM

Thrawn wrote:

Oh, I forgot to mention - for my money, the absolute best thing on your list of possibles is Serpents Among The Ruins from the Vaughn backstory section. DRG3 laying it down.

That's another favorite of mine, not just Trek but books overall.

King Daniel · January 22 2013, 11:28 AM

I loved the Millenium trilogy. Lots of alternate-future craziness with the Grigari, some of Treklit's most horrifying baddies. Haven't read Terok Nor yet.

Odo · January 22 2013, 05:08 PM

Haven't read it, but doesn't Cast Now Shadow by Swallow also have some Vaughn back-story?

theblitz · January 22 2013, 05:32 PM

Bought the Mirror Universe books.
Hopefully I will find my missing book by the time I finish these.

ronny · January 22 2013, 06:50 PM

Odo wrote:

Haven't read it, but doesn't Cast Now Shadow by Swallow also have some Vaughn back-story?

I'm only about 50 pages into it so far but yeah, Vaughn is in it.

January 22 2013, 12:14 AM	#1
theblitz Lieutenant Commander Location: Israel	"Terok Nor" and "Millenium" Whilst trying to find my lost-a-home copy of Rising Son I was wondering what else to read. Now reading Left Hand of Destiny. Are the Terok Nor or Millenium trilogies worth getting? Other possibilites are: 1. Go down the Klingon Empire branch. 2. Mirror Universe 3. Vaughn Background Suggestions?

January 22 2013, 12:41 AM	#2
ronny Fleet Captain Location: San Francisco, CA	Re: "Terok Nor" and "Millenium" The first book in the Terok Nor trilogy is great. The other 2 books are pretty good but aren't quite up to par with the first one. I thought this was the better of the 2 trilogies. I liked the first book in the Millennium trilogy but each one after that got successfully worse for me and it was a steep drop, as in I didn't care for the third book much at all. __________________ If you want people to respect your ideas, get better ideas. - John Scalzi

January 22 2013, 12:43 AM	#3
Thrawn Commodore Location: Washington, DC	Re: "Terok Nor" and "Millenium" I'd say that the usual opinion is that both aren't all-time classics, but both definitely have their high points. The first book of Terok Nor stands apart from the other two and is generally the favorite. I think the Klingon Empire books are probably more interesting, on the whole, though it depends on your relative preference for Klingon culture and Bajor/Cardassia culture. __________________ The Almighty Star Trek Lit-Verse Reading Order Flowchart - be confused no longer about what to read next, or what to read first. 12/5/12: Now brilliantly updated by 8of5!

January 22 2013, 01:35 AM	#5
Mr. Laser Beam Fleet Admiral Location: The visitor's bullpen	Re: "Terok Nor" and "Millenium" Millennium is kind of weird, but it does have its moments (my favorite is the "dueling Starfleets" ). __________________ It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shakes, the shakes become a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.

January 22 2013, 02:18 AM	#6
Sci Admiral Location: The Red Flag: May Day 2013	Re: "Terok Nor" and "Millenium" The first book in the Terk Nor trilogy, Day of the Vipers, is just bloody brilliant. It's the story of how Cardassia came into contact with Bajor, and gradually took it over; a great political thriller about how imperialism and greed corrupt a government and destroy a society. __________________ This dream must end, this world must know: We all depend on the beast below.

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January 22 2013, 03:06 AM	#9
Thrawn Commodore Location: Washington, DC	Re: "Terok Nor" and "Millenium" Oh, I forgot to mention - for my money, the absolute best thing on your list of possibles is Serpents Among The Ruins from the Vaughn backstory section. DRG3 laying it down. __________________ The Almighty Star Trek Lit-Verse Reading Order Flowchart - be confused no longer about what to read next, or what to read first. 12/5/12: Now brilliantly updated by 8of5!

January 22 2013, 11:28 AM	#12
King Daniel Admiral Location: KingDaniel has fallen Into Darkness (in England)	Re: "Terok Nor" and "Millenium" I loved the Millenium trilogy. Lots of alternate-future craziness with the Grigari, some of Treklit's most horrifying baddies. Haven't read Terok Nor yet. __________________ Star Trek Imponderables, fun video mashups of Trek's biggest continuity errors. Episode One Episode Two

January 22 2013, 05:08 PM	#13
Odo Lieutenant Location: Earth	Re: "Terok Nor" and "Millenium" Haven't read it, but doesn't Cast Now Shadow by Swallow also have some Vaughn back-story? __________________ "God is a DS9 fan." - Ira Behr

January 22 2013, 05:32 PM	#14
theblitz Lieutenant Commander Location: Israel	Re: "Terok Nor" and "Millenium" Bought the Mirror Universe books. Hopefully I will find my missing book by the time I finish these.