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Old January 21 2013, 07:30 PM   #31
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Re: COUNTDOWN TO DARKNESS 5-page preview

Amanda: Spock, why did you bring us onboard?! You've DOOMED us! YOU'VE DOOMED US ALL!
Spock: ...Ok. Transporter chief, beam us back to the planet's surface.
*they all energize back onto Vulcan*
Spock: Better now?
*They all fall through the cracks and die*
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Old January 21 2013, 07:55 PM   #32
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Either reveal something or don't.
They've elected to go with don't. For all four issues, in fact.

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if the answer is yes than you have everyone saying "hey cool, that was my favourite movie.
Despite the fact that have been trying to break it as slowly and softly as possible, that is not what they have everyone saying.



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Old January 21 2013, 08:39 PM   #33
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Well, I'm a member of the fanbase too, and I sure as hell don't feel "offended" or "screwed with." I don't feel I'm entitled to be told about a story before it comes out. On the contrary, I think it's good not to know too much in advance. What matters is the movie itself, the complete story it has to tell, not the advance publicity. I think modern society has gotten too preoccupied with publicity as an end in itself, obsessing with previews and trailers and spoilers and leaks to such an extent that it drowns out the actual story at the heart of it all. I mean, for Pete's sake, we've reached the point where we're getting promos for teasers for trailers for movies! It's ridiculous! I don't need all this foofarah in advance. It's not what matters. I'd be fine going into that theater in May and not having any clue what to expect.

Hell, the reason they call them "spoilers" in the first place is because people used to think it ruined the viewing experience to be told too much in advance. There is value in being surprised by a story. I think Abrams is absolutely in the right to try to restore that sense of mystery and surprise, to resist the modern pressures to spill everything about the movie months in advance. I'm not offended by his approach; I laud it. So you can damn well speak for yourself and not pretend that your excessive sense of self-entitlement represents the consensus of fandom as a whole.
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Plus, I rather like the comic preview. It builds on some of the themes touched on in the ongoing comic and gives a bit more insight into Spock's frame of mind in the older issues. The comics are always a bit thin and the stories never have enough depth overall for my taste, but they're still entertaining enough. There's enough here to pique my curiosity.
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Old January 21 2013, 10:28 PM   #34
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Well, I'm a member of the fanbase too, and I sure as hell don't feel "offended" or "screwed with." I don't feel I'm entitled to be told about a story before it comes out. On the contrary, I think it's good not to know too much in advance. What matters is the movie itself, the complete story it has to tell, not the advance publicity. I think modern society has gotten too preoccupied with publicity as an end in itself, obsessing with previews and trailers and spoilers and leaks to such an extent that it drowns out the actual story at the heart of it all. I mean, for Pete's sake, we've reached the point where we're getting promos for teasers for trailers for movies! It's ridiculous! I don't need all this foofarah in advance. It's not what matters. I'd be fine going into that theater in May and not having any clue what to expect.

Hell, the reason they call them "spoilers" in the first place is because people used to think it ruined the viewing experience to be told too much in advance. There is value in being surprised by a story. I think Abrams is absolutely in the right to try to restore that sense of mystery and surprise, to resist the modern pressures to spill everything about the movie months in advance. I'm not offended by his approach; I laud it. So you can damn well speak for yourself and not pretend that your excessive sense of self-entitlement represents the consensus of fandom as a whole.
My sentiments exactly (member of fandom since 1973).
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Old January 21 2013, 10:37 PM   #35
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Well, I'm a member of the fanbase too, and I sure as hell don't feel "offended" or "screwed with." I don't feel I'm entitled to be told about a story before it comes out. On the contrary, I think it's good not to know too much in advance. What matters is the movie itself, the complete story it has to tell, not the advance publicity. I think modern society has gotten too preoccupied with publicity as an end in itself, obsessing with previews and trailers and spoilers and leaks to such an extent that it drowns out the actual story at the heart of it all. I mean, for Pete's sake, we've reached the point where we're getting promos for teasers for trailers for movies! It's ridiculous! I don't need all this foofarah in advance. It's not what matters. I'd be fine going into that theater in May and not having any clue what to expect.

Hell, the reason they call them "spoilers" in the first place is because people used to think it ruined the viewing experience to be told too much in advance. There is value in being surprised by a story. I think Abrams is absolutely in the right to try to restore that sense of mystery and surprise, to resist the modern pressures to spill everything about the movie months in advance. I'm not offended by his approach; I laud it. So you can damn well speak for yourself and not pretend that your excessive sense of self-entitlement represents the consensus of fandom as a whole.
My sentiments exactly (member of fandom since 1973).
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Old January 22 2013, 02:57 AM   #36
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There is value in being surprised by a story.
I guess that's what it all comes down to, I don't care for surprises, and never have. Even as a child I always peaked at my Christmas presents. Hell, I remember when Generations came out, I had the novelization (or juniour novelization, to be more accurate) several days before the movie's theatrical release, and the first thing I did was read the last chapter. I don't usually do that with books, but since this was a movie I had to know how it ended. Of course, with this and Trek XI I can't do that since novelizations are released after the movie's release. Okay, that's not an Abrams thing, a lot of movies are doing that these days.

Yes, I admit, I'm a spoiler whore and that's not going to change. And maybe it is detrimentat to know everything in advance, but not relvealing anything is simply another extreme. And could potentially be detrimental, there are those who argue that complete mystery as to the plot worked against Super 8. Unfortunately this is a theory that can't be proved since everyone else reveals something about their movies before release.
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Old January 22 2013, 03:05 AM   #37
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Well, get used to it. Most people don't think that way, so they're not going to market to a tiny minority.
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Old January 22 2013, 03:10 AM   #38
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Oh, I know movie studios aren't big on spoilers, but when did the internet change? Sure, spoilers don't leak as much today as they did a decade ago, but no one eve tries to get that exclusive scoop on coming plot developments. Damn it, it was because of spoilers for Enterprise and Nemesis that led to me registering on Trek BBS in the first place.
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Old January 22 2013, 03:37 AM   #39
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There is value in being surprised by a story.
I guess that's what it all comes down to, I don't care for surprises, and never have. Even as a child I always peaked at my Christmas presents. Hell, I remember when Generations came out, I had the novelization (or juniour novelization, to be more accurate) several days before the movie's theatrical release, and the first thing I did was read the last chapter. I don't usually do that with books, but since this was a movie I had to know how it ended. Of course, with this and Trek XI I can't do that since novelizations are released after the movie's release. Okay, that's not an Abrams thing, a lot of movies are doing that these days.

Yes, I admit, I'm a spoiler whore and that's not going to change. And maybe it is detrimentat to know everything in advance, but not relvealing anything is simply another extreme. And could potentially be detrimental, there are those who argue that complete mystery as to the plot worked against Super 8. Unfortunately this is a theory that can't be proved since everyone else reveals something about their movies before release.
I loved Super 8. I primarily loved it because I had no idea (except the vaguest notion that it was some sort of homage to early Spielberg) what it was about before I saw it. The characters are exactly the age I was in the timeframe the film's story is set and I grew up in a neighbourhood not all that different from the one depicted in the movie. I had friends who resembled the kids in the movie a great deal. All of that was much more fun to experience as it was unfolding rather than having it all spoiled ahead of time.

As for not having any "spoilers" for the new movie--two trailers and a 9-minute preview seem pretty meaty in the spoiler category. What more do you want, the final draft of the script published online months before it comes out? Access to the workprint? A copy of the manuscript of the novelization?

Thankfully, neither you, nor anyone else who has no need to access such things, appear likely to be granted such access. Makes it far less likely the rest of us will be spoiled.
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Old January 22 2013, 03:58 AM   #40
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Yes, I admit, I'm a spoiler whore and that's not going to change.
Okay, but that's your personal preference as an individual. So please don't go around claiming you speak for fandom as a whole, or accusing the filmmakers of committing some gross betrayal of decency just because they don't pander to your personal tastes.
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Old January 22 2013, 04:50 AM   #41
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Hell, I remember when Generations came out, I had the novelization (or juniour novelization, to be more accurate) several days before the movie's theatrical release, and the first thing I did was read the last chapter. I don't usually do that with books, but since this was a movie I had to know how it ended. Of course, with this and Trek XI I can't do that since novelizations are released after the movie's release. Okay, that's not an Abrams thing, a lot of movies are doing that these days.
Reminds me of SW...

By the time I saw TESB I had already read the comic adaptation of the film. Then I ordered the ROTJ storybook ( like a kiddie novelization ) - which was due to arrive before the film came out - through my school, but the order got screwed up/delayed. A friend down the block had it and let me look at it, but the weird thing is he would only let me read the very beginning and the very end.

I am significantly more spoiler-averse now.

Also, I believe the novelization of ROTS was released before the film.
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Old January 22 2013, 09:14 AM   #42
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Check out Trekmovie.com - bigger preview and a review containing spoilers.
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Old January 22 2013, 09:37 AM   #43
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Check out Trekmovie.com - bigger preview and a review containing spoilers.
I wish I hadn't read that. That's a rather large spoiler (for the comic) at the end.

That being said, I can't wait to see the reaction here
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Old January 22 2013, 09:41 AM   #44
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I wish I hadn't read that, that a huge spoiler (for the comic) at the end.

That being said, I can't wait to see the reaction here
Heh - me too - but I did warn you... could be an indirect link to Harrison in there?
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Old January 22 2013, 10:29 AM   #45
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Whoa...shocker there. I wasn't expecting that from the comic. Nice twist.
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