Mirror Ezri

dub · January 11 2013, 12:19 AM

I was not a fan of Ezri...but I WAS a huge fan of Ezri from the mirror universe! I think it would have been awesome if they somehow killed off "normal" Ezri inside the mirror universe and Mirror Ezri was sent to the other side as a spy or something for the rest of the season, then at the end, she could have made her way back to the mirror universe leaving the door open for questions like...what happened when she went back? What was she doing there in the first place? Adding more mystery to the ending would have been pretty cool. Anyway, I guess I just thought Mirror Ezri was hawt.

TheRoyalFamily · January 11 2013, 03:04 AM

Hawt as she was, the whole point of the character was that she's Dax. A somewhat different Dax, but still Dax. Mirror Ezri wouldn't have made much sense.

AllStarEntprise · January 11 2013, 05:22 AM

Rick Berman would never sanction an openly gay character on any of the 4 shows he worked on, but he can totally support displaying a teenage boy fetish fantasy of having two women kiss. Mirror Ezri and the Intendant Kira. Intendant Kira was always portrayed to swing both ways, even with herself (Prime Kira) creepy as that is. Intendant was always wearing tight form fitting leather, and Mirror Ezri sports black leather cloths. Only thing you're missing is whips, chains and nipple tassels.

That don't do enough to ease your pain. Trot over to VOY for the scantly clad 7 of 9 and the subtle and sometimes not so subtle relationship she has with Janeway.

dub · January 11 2013, 05:36 AM

It wasn't her sexuality (I honestly forgot about that - I've only seen most of the episodes once so far) or even the leather that I found so attractive, it was more her personality, her confidence and the way she carried herself. I kind of wish the Ezri character was originally written with those qualities. I guess that would have been seen as a cheap attempt at a last minute ratings grab. Or maybe the people in charge think good looks is enough for sex appeal, they can then write whatever personality they want.

Melakon · January 11 2013, 05:59 AM

According to Memory Alpha...

Nicole de Boer had an absolute blast making this episode, and afterwards she asked, "Can I play this character all the time?" Louis Race points out, "Nicole's performance gave me a real appreciation of her skill as an actress. She wasn't just playing 'Cute in Leather'. She became a much more sinister and driven, harder-edged character." DeBoer herself says, "After playing sweet Ezri, I thought, 'Yeah! This is gonna be fun!' Not that Ezri was too sweet, but this was just really fun to do." (Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Companion)

And apparently Mirror Ezri wasn't a Dax.

E-DUB · January 11 2013, 09:14 PM

But did become one in the last MU novel.

Kathryn Janeway · January 13 2013, 04:51 PM

I loved the scene where Rom was convinced she was so much taller than "our Ezri" just because she behaved differently.

Rush Limborg · January 18 2013, 05:47 AM

I kinda liked Mirror Ezri--but (obviously

) not at the expense of our Ezri.

Frankly...I'd have liked to have seen some interaction between the two. As "tough" and "cool" as MU Ezri was...she didn't seem too self-aware, only just discovering her conscience. She also struck me as having a bit of a chip on her shoulder--she had "something to prove".

I could easily see Prime Ezri confronting her in a manner reminiscent of Bond confronting Leiter in Quantum of Solace: "You know, I don't think your half as cynical as you make yourself out to be...."

CorporalClegg · January 18 2013, 06:56 AM

...Is Gorgeous.

/thread

teacake · January 18 2013, 07:19 AM

I think MU Ezri was more like "us" than a lot of Trek characters. She was relatable. Confident but not in that tv superchick way, out for herself but not one dimensional. Making the best of wherever she found herself and confident in her ability to do that. I liked her a lot.

Sephiroth · January 21 2013, 08:52 AM

Ticked me off that we didn't have Ezri a few seasons earlier, give her time to get away from the "I'm a new person now and I'm uncomfortable" phase of her character.

teacake · January 21 2013, 09:39 AM

I was instantly enamored with Ezri. She was everything I thought I didn't like in a character and I loved her.

R. Star · January 22 2013, 12:24 AM

I dunno, turning mirror Ezri into a BDSM lesbian was rather predictable considering the precedent set by DS9's mirror universe.

CorporalClegg · January 22 2013, 12:40 AM

R. Star wrote:

I dunno, turning mirror Ezri into a BDSM lesbian was rather predictable considering the precedent set by DS9's mirror universe.

It's a long-running SF&F cliche. DS9 is not the only show guilty of it.

January 11 2013, 12:19 AM	#1
dub Lieutenant Commander Location: Location? What is this?	Mirror Ezri I was not a fan of Ezri...but I WAS a huge fan of Ezri from the mirror universe! I think it would have been awesome if they somehow killed off "normal" Ezri inside the mirror universe and Mirror Ezri was sent to the other side as a spy or something for the rest of the season, then at the end, she could have made her way back to the mirror universe leaving the door open for questions like...what happened when she went back? What was she doing there in the first place? Adding more mystery to the ending would have been pretty cool. Anyway, I guess I just thought Mirror Ezri was hawt.

January 11 2013, 03:04 AM	#2
TheRoyalFamily Fleet Captain Location: Mentone	Re: Mirror Ezri Hawt as she was, the whole point of the character was that she's Dax. A somewhat different Dax, but still Dax. Mirror Ezri wouldn't have made much sense. __________________ You perceive wrongly. I feel unimaginable happiness wasting time talking with women. I'm that type of human.

January 11 2013, 05:22 AM	#3
AllStarEntprise Commander	Re: Mirror Ezri Rick Berman would never sanction an openly gay character on any of the 4 shows he worked on, but he can totally support displaying a teenage boy fetish fantasy of having two women kiss. Mirror Ezri and the Intendant Kira. Intendant Kira was always portrayed to swing both ways, even with herself (Prime Kira) creepy as that is. Intendant was always wearing tight form fitting leather, and Mirror Ezri sports black leather cloths. Only thing you're missing is whips, chains and nipple tassels. That don't do enough to ease your pain. Trot over to VOY for the scantly clad 7 of 9 and the subtle and sometimes not so subtle relationship she has with Janeway.

January 11 2013, 05:36 AM	#4
dub Lieutenant Commander Location: Location? What is this?	Re: Mirror Ezri It wasn't her sexuality (I honestly forgot about that - I've only seen most of the episodes once so far) or even the leather that I found so attractive, it was more her personality, her confidence and the way she carried herself. I kind of wish the Ezri character was originally written with those qualities. I guess that would have been seen as a cheap attempt at a last minute ratings grab. Or maybe the people in charge think good looks is enough for sex appeal, they can then write whatever personality they want.

January 11 2013, 09:14 PM	#6
E-DUB Commander	Re: Mirror Ezri But did become one in the last MU novel.

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January 13 2013, 04:51 PM	#7
Kathryn Janeway Ensign Location: Go to the end of the world, then it's just around the corner	Re: Mirror Ezri I loved the scene where Rom was convinced she was so much taller than "our Ezri" just because she behaved differently.

January 18 2013, 05:47 AM	#8
Rush Limborg Vice Admiral Location: The EIB Network	Re: Mirror Ezri I kinda liked Mirror Ezri--but (obviously ) not at the expense of our Ezri. Frankly...I'd have liked to have seen some interaction between the two. As "tough" and "cool" as MU Ezri was...she didn't seem too self-aware, only just discovering her conscience. She also struck me as having a bit of a chip on her shoulder--she had "something to prove". I could easily see Prime Ezri confronting her in a manner reminiscent of Bond confronting Leiter in Quantum of Solace: "You know, I don't think your half as cynical as you make yourself out to be...." __________________ "I have been wounded but not yet slain. I shall lie here and bleed awhile. Then I shall rise and fight again." "Forget it, Jake...it's Chinatown."

January 18 2013, 06:56 AM	#9
CorporalClegg Vice Admiral Location: Nuevo México	Re: Mirror Ezri ...Is Gorgeous. /thread

January 18 2013, 07:19 AM	#10
teacake Admiral Location: Militant Janeway True Path Devotees Compound. With Sehlats.	Re: Mirror Ezri I think MU Ezri was more like "us" than a lot of Trek characters. She was relatable. Confident but not in that tv superchick way, out for herself but not one dimensional. Making the best of wherever she found herself and confident in her ability to do that. I liked her a lot. __________________ Rider: I can't believe you'd kill me for a field of empty holes. J'onn: It's all I have. ■ ■ ■ Janeway does Melbourne

January 21 2013, 08:52 AM	#11
Sephiroth Vice Admiral Location: Sephiroth	Re: Mirror Ezri Ticked me off that we didn't have Ezri a few seasons earlier, give her time to get away from the "I'm a new person now and I'm uncomfortable" phase of her character. __________________ ~I Will Never Be A Memory~ (>'_')>---------->Kazap< Hunting Humanity and Pestering Cloud since 1997

January 21 2013, 09:39 AM	#12
teacake Admiral Location: Militant Janeway True Path Devotees Compound. With Sehlats.	Re: Mirror Ezri I was instantly enamored with Ezri. She was everything I thought I didn't like in a character and I loved her. __________________ Rider: I can't believe you'd kill me for a field of empty holes. J'onn: It's all I have. ■ ■ ■ Janeway does Melbourne

January 22 2013, 12:24 AM	#13
R. Star Commodore Location: Terra 3	Re: Mirror Ezri I dunno, turning mirror Ezri into a BDSM lesbian was rather predictable considering the precedent set by DS9's mirror universe. __________________ "I was never a Star Trek fan." J.J. Abrams