Once Upon A Time - Season 2 Thread

[Guy Gardener]

She is no Agent Jinx.

[stj]

Enterprise is Great wrote:

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I wish a number of fans would get that. I keep reading comments with people bitching about how dumb Emma is because she can't always tell when people are lying. It's fairly obvious that her lie detector powers aren't real. Or at least they don't work consistently.

Emma's suppposed ability to detect a lie was what led her to stay in Storybrooke after returning Henry. She asked Regina if she loved Henry and got a negative. That's why it was in one sense a surprise when Regina tried to reform for Henry. Of course, later on her behavior also didn't make any sense if she didn't really care, but there you are. Villains rarely need to make sense. But the heroes do, and Emma staying to save Henry from "mother" who doesn't love him is a powerful motive for heroism. On the other hand, Emma kidding herself because she just deep down already wants to get into a custody dispute she would lose? Not so much. This was hugely important to the entire first season.

Also, to clarify about the last episode: Anybody should have been able to tell that the new guy was lying! Unless this was really the ninth dwarf, Twitchy.

[Greg Cox]

sojourner wrote:

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This whole episode was just "meh". Didn't thrill me.

Really? My girlfriend and I both thought it was a particularly strong ep that we wanted to watch over again. Robert Carlyle was in fine form, both as Gold and Rumple. The visit to b/w Gothic Horror Land was a treat, and it was pretty eventful as well.

Just off the top of my head: Hook was captured, Belle broke Chip, Regina was reunited with her mother, the outside world threatens to discover Storybrooke, Rumple drafted Emma to help him find Baelfire, there were hints of a love connection between Ruby and Dr. Whale, some new mysteries were introduced (Who is "Her"?), and we got the untold story of Dr. Frankenstein . . . .

Lots of fun dialogue, too:

"You framed me for the cricket."

"I ate my boyfriend."

"We were cursed! Moving on . . ."

"Good thing I don't give a damn."

"Frankenstein isn't even a fairy tale!"

"Belle? Who is Belle?"

[Vendikarr]

stj wrote:

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Emma's suppposed ability to detect a lie was what led her to stay in Storybrooke after returning Henry. She asked Regina if she loved Henry and got a negative. That's why it was in one sense a surprise when Regina tried to reform for Henry. Of course, later on her behavior also didn't make any sense if she didn't really care, but there you are. Villains rarely need to make sense. But the heroes do, and Emma staying to save Henry from "mother" who doesn't love him is a powerful motive for heroism. On the other hand, Emma kidding herself because she just deep down already wants to get into a custody dispute she would lose? Not so much. This was hugely important to the entire first season.

Also, to clarify about the last episode: Anybody should have been able to tell that the new guy was lying! Unless this was really the ninth dwarf, Twitchy.

For the first season to work, Emma's 'lie detector' ability has to be real and functional. But it seems somewhat unreliable now. Maybe it was a magical ability that Emma had but was never understood, and functioned somewhat on instinct. And now that Gold has brought magic into this world, it's messed up and she has to actually learn how to use it now.

That is just my stupid theory, and the actual reason why it didn't work is because the writer needed it to not work for his story to work.

[Greg Cox]

I'm looking forward to Emma and Gold going on a road trip together. That should be amusing!

Think they'll take her cute little yellow Bug?

[trekkiebaggio]

Greg Cox wrote:

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Really? My girlfriend and I both thought it was a particularly strong ep that we wanted to watch over again. Robert Carlyle was in fine form, both as Gold and Rumple. The visit to b/w Gothic Horror Land was a treat, and it was pretty eventful as well.

Just off the top of my head: Hook was captured, Belle broke Chip, Regina was reunited with her mother, the outside world threatens to discover Storybrooke, Rumple drafted Emma to help him find Baelfire, there were hints of a love connection between Ruby and Dr. Whale, some new mysteries were introduced (Who is "Her"?), and we got the untold story of Dr. Frankenstein . . . .

Lots of fun dialogue, too:

"You framed me for the cricket."

"I ate my boyfriend."

"We were cursed! Moving on . . ."

"Good thing I don't give a damn."

"Frankenstein isn't even a fairy tale!"

"Belle? Who is Belle?"

And my favourite:

"I'm going to tell Emma, Henry and the two idiots."

I thought it was very sweet when Rumplestiltskin tried to kiss Belle to break her curse.

I liked that episode, it packed a lot in. Seeing as Emma is going along for the ride do we all think it's almost certain that her ex is going to be Bae?

[Greg Cox]

trekkiebaggio wrote:

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And my favourite:

"I'm going to tell Emma, Henry and the two idiots."

Yeah, I laughed out loud at that one, too.

And I admit I was suckered by Cora-as-Henry, although "Henry" did strike me as being oddly affectionate toward his "mom" . . . .

[trekkiebaggio]

^I was too. I thought Cora was going to capture him.

I also thought it's very strange to have someone on your phone as 'Her' so I was beginning to think that perhaps the stranger didn't necessarily come to Storybrooke by chance, but the last conversation he had seemed to suggest he did.

[Greg Cox]

trekkiebaggio wrote:

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^I was too. I thought Cora was going to capture him.

I also thought it's very strange to have someone on your phone as 'Her' so I was beginning to think that perhaps the stranger didn't necessarily come to Storybrooke by chance, but the last conversation he had seemed to suggest he did.

And why did they make a point of establishing that the intruder was from Pennsylvania--which is nowhere near Maine. Usually, this show talks about people coming and going from Boston, which seems to be the nearest big city.

(Never mind that the entire state of New Hampshire lies between Maine and Massachussets!)

[JanewayRulz!]

Greg Cox wrote:

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(Never mind that the entire state of New Hampshire lies between Maine and Massachussets!)

Uh, that's only about 20 miles, Boss. NH only dips its toe into the Atlantic ocean.

I was surprised by Cora smooching Mr. Gold.

[Greg Cox]

JanewayRulz! wrote:

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Uh, that's only about 20 miles, Boss. NH only dips its toe into the Atlantic ocean.

Good point. Still, it's peculiar how both this show (and HAVEN) always cite Boston when they need to reference a big city.

This struck me as particularly odd in the "Hansel & Gretel" episode in which Regina ordered the homeless children to be delivered to the foster care system--in Boston.

Come again? Maine doesn't have its own foster care system?

[Peacemaker]

JanewayRulz! wrote:

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Uh, that's only about 20 miles, Boss. NH only dips its toe into the Atlantic ocean.

I was surprised by Cora smooching Mr. Gold.

Yeah, I was torn between "Is she going to suck his life force out of him?" and "I think I just threw up a little bit in my mouth."

[Greg Cox]

Peacemaker wrote:

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Yeah, I was torn between "Is she going to suck his life force out of him?" and "I think I just threw up a little bit in my mouth."

I guess they have a history!

[Nerys Myk]

Everyone has a history with Rumple.

[Greg Cox]

Nerys Myk wrote:

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Everyone has a history with Rumple.

But not necessarily that kind of history, I hope!