Star Trek Online Discussion Thread (now free to play!) - Page 201

Noname Given · January 19 2013, 07:29 PM

Rocketeer wrote:

intrinsical wrote:

Apparently there's been some issue about the launcher not getting updated. I have no idea if its related to your problems, but you can try downloading the launcher found at this link: http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/sh...d.php?t=505501

14GBs, yikes

The Launcher is 9 megabytes. 14 GB is what the launcher will download once you run it (IE the full game client) if you don't have STO installed.

Jax · January 20 2013, 02:16 AM

Just got Sovereign and miss my defiant already, really think I made a mistake leaving the escort class...it feels just so weak in both attack n defence + mega slow

Timelord_Victorious · January 20 2013, 10:15 AM

Jax wrote:

Just got Sovereign and miss my defiant already, really think I made a mistake leaving the escort class...it feels just so weak in both attack n defence + mega slow

Of course, it feels weak in attack and turn speed but if you have trouble staying alive in a Sovereign you are doing it wrong.
Which is normal if you only piloted escorts before.

You are probably still specced for escorts for starters?

Rocketeer · January 20 2013, 01:58 PM

Noname Given wrote:

Rocketeer wrote:

intrinsical wrote:

Apparently there's been some issue about the launcher not getting updated. I have no idea if its related to your problems, but you can try downloading the launcher found at this link: http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/sh...d.php?t=505501

14GBs, yikes

The Launcher is 9 megabytes. 14 GB is what the launcher will download once you run it (IE the full game client) if you don't have STO installed.

STO is installed but it's reporting 14GB on the patch. Doesn't matter though as it failed after downloading for 24 hours. Nobody has time for this. What in the hell has Cryptic/PWE done with the launcher?

My return on investment for STO is falling down the garbage chute...

CorporalClegg · January 21 2013, 01:49 AM

^
Have you tried the torrent?

Blamo · January 21 2013, 03:13 AM

Personally I'd say the only ships you should fly in STO are escorts. I used to fly cruisers and even managed to get good damage out of them, but after PvPing for I realised that no matter how good the build is, a cruiser will always be a distant second to an escort.

Sadly when you build a cruiser in such a way that it gets close to escort damage, it becomes quite squishy in comparison to one.

I've now dropped the cruiser on all my alts and now solely fly escorts (the tankier ones like the patrol escort, heavy escort carrier, the Breen ship and the temporal destroyer).

CorporalClegg · January 21 2013, 05:46 AM

Except escorts are faceroll boring-easy.

But I'll submit that it is unfortunate Cryptic instituted the trinity and then failed to provide an application of it. It's the biggest shortcoming of the game IMO.

On a bright note, I just got the Vestas.

sbk1234 · January 21 2013, 03:39 PM

I've got buyer's remorse over my newest ship. Is there a way to return a ship for even a partial refund? Or at least, try to sell it?

Timelord_Victorious · January 21 2013, 03:42 PM

Afraid not.
Ships are not sellable, unless they are still in a lockbox.

What ship and what is the problem?

sbk1234 · January 21 2013, 03:52 PM

Don't laugh. It's an Excelsior. It's just weaker than my earlier ship. I really bought it for asthetics rather than playability, since I always liked the Excelsior. Oh, well, I may just go back to my previous ship and chalk it up to experience. Better to waste fake money on this than real money on something important.

Timelord_Victorious · January 21 2013, 04:58 PM

What do you mean by weaker?

Damage output?

The excelsior is the best DPS cruiser outside of lockbox ships, and if you build it right, you can melt other ships almost as fast as an escort.
You may want to look into single cannon builds for this.

For example 4 single Antiproton cannons in the front, 4 antiproton turrets in the rear for a pure energy build.
If you don't use orpedos, you will have anough tactical powers for tactical team, 2x rapid fire or one rapid fire and attack pattern omega.

Use DEM 3 for high shield penetration.
The rest of the engineering powers should go to survivability as well as science powers.

sbk1234 · January 21 2013, 05:07 PM

thanks for the tip.

Timelord_Victorious · January 21 2013, 05:16 PM

YOu can optimize that build with a dedicated respec.

T J · January 21 2013, 06:23 PM

CorporalClegg wrote:

On a bright note, I just got the Vestas.

Same here, I love mine! High survivability, great dps, and with scorpion fighters. I'm nearly unstoppable!

CorporalClegg · January 21 2013, 07:20 PM

I haven't decided on how I'm going to build mine yet. I did some research last night and decided I'd sleep on it. Still have no idea.

One thing is I need to respec first, but I can't even decide if I want to specialize or just go with a more generic build so I can utilize other ships.

Oh and what's the best way to obtain the other hanger ships?

Unfortunately, I only have about 4 mill EC.

January 20 2013, 02:16 AM	#3002
Jax Admiral Location: The United Kingdom of Great Britain & Northern Ireland	Re: Star Trek Online Discussion Thread (now free to play!) Just got Sovereign and miss my defiant already, really think I made a mistake leaving the escort class...it feels just so weak in both attack n defence + mega slow __________________ Brave (B) Great & Powerful Oz (B-) Hunger Games (B-) American Reunion (B) Milk (B-) The Insider (B+) The Rainmaker (B-) God Bless America (B-) It's Kind of a Funny Story (B-) Iron Man 3 (B+) Star Trek Into Darkness (A-)

January 21 2013, 01:49 AM	#3005
CorporalClegg Vice Admiral Location: Nuevo México	Re: Star Trek Online Discussion Thread (now free to play!) ^ Have you tried the torrent? __________________ Hola!

January 21 2013, 03:13 AM	#3006
Blamo Fleet Captain Location: UK	Re: Star Trek Online Discussion Thread (now free to play!) Personally I'd say the only ships you should fly in STO are escorts. I used to fly cruisers and even managed to get good damage out of them, but after PvPing for I realised that no matter how good the build is, a cruiser will always be a distant second to an escort. Sadly when you build a cruiser in such a way that it gets close to escort damage, it becomes quite squishy in comparison to one. I've now dropped the cruiser on all my alts and now solely fly escorts (the tankier ones like the patrol escort, heavy escort carrier, the Breen ship and the temporal destroyer).

January 21 2013, 05:46 AM	#3007
CorporalClegg Vice Admiral Location: Nuevo México	Re: Star Trek Online Discussion Thread (now free to play!) Except escorts are faceroll boring-easy. But I'll submit that it is unfortunate Cryptic instituted the trinity and then failed to provide an application of it. It's the biggest shortcoming of the game IMO. On a bright note, I just got the Vestas. __________________ Hola!

January 21 2013, 03:39 PM	#3008
sbk1234 Rear Admiral Location: Los Angeles	Re: Star Trek Online Discussion Thread (now free to play!) I've got buyer's remorse over my newest ship. Is there a way to return a ship for even a partial refund? Or at least, try to sell it? __________________ In all the history of the world, a riot has NEVER broken out at a Sci-Fi convention. "It's a fucking TV show!" - Gary Lockwood

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January 21 2013, 03:42 PM	#3009
Timelord_Victorious Rear Admiral	Re: Star Trek Online Discussion Thread (now free to play!) Afraid not. Ships are not sellable, unless they are still in a lockbox. What ship and what is the problem?

January 21 2013, 03:52 PM	#3010
sbk1234 Rear Admiral Location: Los Angeles	Re: Star Trek Online Discussion Thread (now free to play!) Don't laugh. It's an Excelsior. It's just weaker than my earlier ship. I really bought it for asthetics rather than playability, since I always liked the Excelsior. Oh, well, I may just go back to my previous ship and chalk it up to experience. Better to waste fake money on this than real money on something important. __________________ In all the history of the world, a riot has NEVER broken out at a Sci-Fi convention. "It's a fucking TV show!" - Gary Lockwood

January 21 2013, 04:58 PM	#3011
Timelord_Victorious Rear Admiral	Re: Star Trek Online Discussion Thread (now free to play!) What do you mean by weaker? Damage output? The excelsior is the best DPS cruiser outside of lockbox ships, and if you build it right, you can melt other ships almost as fast as an escort. You may want to look into single cannon builds for this. For example 4 single Antiproton cannons in the front, 4 antiproton turrets in the rear for a pure energy build. If you don't use orpedos, you will have anough tactical powers for tactical team, 2x rapid fire or one rapid fire and attack pattern omega. Use DEM 3 for high shield penetration. The rest of the engineering powers should go to survivability as well as science powers.

January 21 2013, 05:07 PM	#3012
sbk1234 Rear Admiral Location: Los Angeles	Re: Star Trek Online Discussion Thread (now free to play!) thanks for the tip. __________________ In all the history of the world, a riot has NEVER broken out at a Sci-Fi convention. "It's a fucking TV show!" - Gary Lockwood

January 21 2013, 05:16 PM	#3013
Timelord_Victorious Rear Admiral	Re: Star Trek Online Discussion Thread (now free to play!) YOu can optimize that build with a dedicated respec.

January 21 2013, 07:20 PM	#3015
CorporalClegg Vice Admiral Location: Nuevo México	Re: Star Trek Online Discussion Thread (now free to play!) I haven't decided on how I'm going to build mine yet. I did some research last night and decided I'd sleep on it. Still have no idea. One thing is I need to respec first, but I can't even decide if I want to specialize or just go with a more generic build so I can utilize other ships. Oh and what's the best way to obtain the other hanger ships? Unfortunately, I only have about 4 mill EC. __________________ Hola!