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View Poll Results: Grade 'Liberty/An Enemy of Fate'
Excellent - Fringe at its very best 17 33.33%
Very Good 19 37.25%
Good 8 15.69%
Average 3 5.88%
Bad 4 7.84%
Really Bad 0 0%
Terrible beyond words - encase this ep in amber! 0 0%
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Old January 19 2013, 04:22 AM   #271
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Re: Fringe Series Finale (Discussion, Spoilers)

I know it's a bit cliche, but I am reminded of Tennyson's Ulysses:

Death closes all: but something ere the end,
Some work of noble note, may yet be done,
Not unbecoming of men who strove with Gods.
... and tho'
We are not now that strength which in old days
Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are;
One equal temper of heroic hearts,
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
Goodbye Fringe, see you in Valhalla.
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Old January 19 2013, 04:24 AM   #272
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We never did find out why Michael got off of that train.
It was part of the plan.

Yeah, and people wonder why I don' enjoy the show as much as before.


Nor did we find out why the Baldies decided to invade in 2015. Any show will always have some loose ends.

Lord knows Lost set the record for bringing things up and never properly following up on them.
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Old January 19 2013, 04:25 AM   #273
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Maybe they will meet the Doctor and talk about a fixed point in time.

And he'll convince Walter that bowties are cool.


Maybe they will become the Doctor's companions and Walter will somehow get Jean and they will all be in the Tardis.
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Old January 19 2013, 04:27 AM   #274
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We never did find out why Michael got off of that train.
It was part of the plan.

Yeah, and people wonder why I don' enjoy the show as much as before.


Nor did we find out why the Baldies decided to invade in 2015. Any show will always have some loose ends.

Lord knows Lost set the record for bringing things up and never properly following up on them.
Definitely Lost. They admitted as much. BSG too and I love that show as well. The producers admitted on a BSG commentary track that "and they have a plan" was added because it sounds cool. BRILLANT!
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Old January 19 2013, 04:27 AM   #275
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We never did find out why Michael got off of that train.
It was part of the plan.

Yeah, and people wonder why I don' enjoy the show as much as before.


Nor did we find out why the Baldies decided to invade in 2015. Any show will always have some loose ends.

Lord knows Lost set the record for bringing things up and never properly following up on them.
It was mentioned in a previous episode that they picked 2015 because that was the moment in history where they had the highest probability of success (something like 99.9999%.)

I still want a clearer explanation of why wiping out the Observers didn't alter the timeline at the point where September distracts Walternate - why do the effects ripple forward from 2015 only?
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Old January 19 2013, 04:27 AM   #276
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Heh, a Dr. Who and Fringe crossover starring the good Doctors and Gene the Cow. I'd watch it.
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Old January 19 2013, 04:28 AM   #277
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Maybe they will meet the Doctor and talk about a fixed point in time.

And he'll convince Walter that bowties are cool.


Maybe they will become the Doctor's companions and Walter will somehow get Jean and they will all be in the Tardis.


Jean in the TARDIS... Now that would be a sight.

We could always call it 'Doctor Moo'.


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Old January 19 2013, 04:29 AM   #278
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We never did find out why Michael got off of that train.
It was part of the plan.

Yeah, and people wonder why I don' enjoy the show as much as before.


Nor did we find out why the Baldies decided to invade in 2015. Any show will always have some loose ends.

Lord knows Lost set the record for bringing things up and never properly following up on them.

They almost answered the 2015 question, the original 12 were set back to look for certain things, and it turns out that 2015 we would have reached a good point to invade.

Still doesn't make any sense to why bother invading.
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Old January 19 2013, 04:29 AM   #279
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Heh, a Dr. Who and Fringe crossover starring the good Doctors and Gene the Cow. I'd watch it.
She would be the cowpanion.
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Old January 19 2013, 04:32 AM   #280
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It was part of the plan.

Yeah, and people wonder why I don' enjoy the show as much as before.


Nor did we find out why the Baldies decided to invade in 2015. Any show will always have some loose ends.

Lord knows Lost set the record for bringing things up and never properly following up on them.
Definitely Lost. They admitted as much. BSG too and I love that show as well. The producers admitted on a BSG commentary track that "and they have a plan" was added because it sounds cool. BRILLANT!
To be fair SyFy wanted the "And they have a plan..." on BSG. That was planned out more than seasons 3 and 4.
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Old January 19 2013, 04:32 AM   #281
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BSG too and I love that show as well. The producers admitted on a BSG commentary track that "and they have a plan" was added because it sounds cool. BRILLANT!


Actually, BSG's finale wasn't bad. At least I remember it fondly.

Highlander and Forever Knight were both shows that I liked that had less than memorable finales. I honestly think it's hard sometimes for a good show to find a great way to go out.
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Old January 19 2013, 04:34 AM   #282
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Heh, a Dr. Who and Fringe crossover starring the good Doctors and Gene the Cow. I'd watch it.
She would be the cowpanion.

Excellent!


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Old January 19 2013, 04:34 AM   #283
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Heh, a Dr. Who and Fringe crossover starring the good Doctors and Gene the Cow. I'd watch it.
She would be the cowpanion.
Brilliant.
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Old January 19 2013, 04:35 AM   #284
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Later, I will probably be checking this thread for the west coast comments also for those who DVR'd it.
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Old January 19 2013, 04:35 AM   #285
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And he'll convince Walter that bowties are cool.


Maybe they will become the Doctor's companions and Walter will somehow get Jean and they will all be in the Tardis.


Jean in the TARDIS... Now that would be a sight.

We could always call it 'Doctor Moo'.


Nice!
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