Where would Voyager be if...

JirinPanthosa · January 18 2013, 11:38 PM

What would have happened to Voyager if there didn't just happen to be exactly one decent person in every group of bad guys?

Same question applies to Enterprise.

Melakon · January 19 2013, 12:20 AM

Utterly destroyed.

I'm at a loss to think of one, decent Kazon however.

Brit · January 19 2013, 12:21 AM

JirinPanthosa wrote:

What would have happened to Voyager if there didn't just happen to be exactly one decent person in every group of bad guys?

Same question applies to Enterprise.

Make their own decent person, just like they did in Scorpion.

tighr · January 19 2013, 01:56 AM

If it weren't for Denara Pel, the Vidiians would probably have harvested Voyager completely. Ironically wouldn't have mattered, since the Think Tank cured Phage 3 years later anyway.

Guy Gardener · January 19 2013, 02:42 AM

Melakon wrote:

Utterly destroyed.

I'm at a loss to think of one, decent Kazon however.

Kar.

lurok · January 19 2013, 06:13 PM

Ah, teenage angst. So handy.

Melakon · January 19 2013, 06:39 PM

Guy Gardener wrote:

Melakon wrote:

Utterly destroyed.

I'm at a loss to think of one, decent Kazon however.

Kar.

Yeah he's the only one though, and didn't have any influence with the sects.

It was nice seeing Aron do something else, but he still seemed like Nog with hair.

rramarr · February 15 2013, 07:14 AM

How do you define decent and who are the examples?

teacake · February 15 2013, 07:17 AM

They are usually dweebish, well meaning, often shorter than the bad guys. They take Our Heroes aside and confess to their doubts over whatever the hegemony is compelling their people to do. Suddenly BAM they have switched sides and with their tremulous assistance Our Heroes triumph. Often they die directly after that, but not always.

Jeri · February 15 2013, 04:05 PM

"Look, son. My starship is only a few light years away."
"I am not your son, Federation. I am your executioner!"
- Chakotay and Kar

Chakotay and moral dilemmas was like Kirk and computers; it was his talent.

Voy: Initiations at Memory Alpha

Lance · February 15 2013, 07:34 PM

I've watched enough episodes of T.J. Hooker to know that in every single gang of evil, ruthless, irredeemable bastards, there's always one guy whose just fallen in with the wrong crowd and is happy to turncoat if it'll get him back on the path to redemption. Always. And in real-life too, probably. Just gotta find that dude.

Would Bill Shatner lie to me?

Udat · February 16 2013, 08:02 PM

^ Yes he would, for 20 bucks.

Star Trek, is about Redemption, no?!

Guy Gardener · February 16 2013, 10:41 PM

Suder wasn't allowed redemption.

Suder "I invented flowers! I can double the ships food supply! I want to be of value to you Captain Janeway!"

Kathy "Shut up and rot your filthy Maquis Son of a bitch."

teacake · February 18 2013, 03:13 AM

Suder was way too creepy to have around doing useful things.

January 18 2013, 11:38 PM	#1
JirinPanthosa Captain	Where would Voyager be if... What would have happened to Voyager if there didn't just happen to be exactly one decent person in every group of bad guys? Same question applies to Enterprise.

January 19 2013, 12:20 AM	#2
Melakon Commodore Location: Unmarked grave, Ekos	Re: Where would Voyager be if... Utterly destroyed. I'm at a loss to think of one, decent Kazon however. __________________ "Every time you think, you weaken the nation." --Moe Howard

January 19 2013, 01:56 AM	#4
tighr Commodore Location: California	Re: Where would Voyager be if... If it weren't for Denara Pel, the Vidiians would probably have harvested Voyager completely. Ironically wouldn't have mattered, since the Think Tank cured Phage 3 years later anyway. __________________ ~Tighr™: Not helping the situation since 1983

January 19 2013, 06:13 PM	#6
lurok Commodore Location: Lost In The EU Expanse	Re: Where would Voyager be if... Ah, teenage angst. So handy.

February 15 2013, 07:14 AM	#8
rramarr Commander Location: In dark matter	Re: Where would Voyager be if... How do you define decent and who are the examples? __________________ "I see no reason to enlighten you." - Tuvok, ST: Voyager.

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February 15 2013, 07:17 AM	#9
teacake Admiral Location: Militant Janeway True Path Devotees Compound. With Sehlats.	Re: Where would Voyager be if... They are usually dweebish, well meaning, often shorter than the bad guys. They take Our Heroes aside and confess to their doubts over whatever the hegemony is compelling their people to do. Suddenly BAM they have switched sides and with their tremulous assistance Our Heroes triumph. Often they die directly after that, but not always. __________________ Rider: I can't believe you'd kill me for a field of empty holes. J'onn: It's all I have. ■ ■ ■ Janeway does Melbourne

February 15 2013, 07:34 PM	#11
Lance Captain Location: The Enterprise's Restroom	Re: Where would Voyager be if... I've watched enough episodes of T.J. Hooker to know that in every single gang of evil, ruthless, irredeemable bastards, there's always one guy whose just fallen in with the wrong crowd and is happy to turncoat if it'll get him back on the path to redemption. Always. And in real-life too, probably. Just gotta find that dude. Would Bill Shatner lie to me?

February 16 2013, 08:02 PM	#12
Udat Rear Admiral Location: Zimbabwe	Re: Where would Voyager be if... ^ Yes he would, for 20 bucks. Star Trek, is about Redemption, no?! __________________ So What?

February 16 2013, 10:41 PM	#13
Guy Gardener Admiral Location: In the lap of squalor I assure you.	Re: Where would Voyager be if... Suder wasn't allowed redemption. Suder "I invented flowers! I can double the ships food supply! I want to be of value to you Captain Janeway!" Kathy "Shut up and rot your filthy Maquis Son of a bitch." __________________ "Glitter is the herpes of arts and craft." Troy Yingst. My Life as Liz

February 18 2013, 03:13 AM	#14
teacake Admiral Location: Militant Janeway True Path Devotees Compound. With Sehlats.	Re: Where would Voyager be if... Suder was way too creepy to have around doing useful things. __________________ Rider: I can't believe you'd kill me for a field of empty holes. J'onn: It's all I have. ■ ■ ■ Janeway does Melbourne