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Old January 18 2013, 09:38 PM   #1576
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You can sleep with people without talking to them.

I do imagine hipsters to be selfish lovers, but they look good while doing it.
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Old January 18 2013, 11:17 PM   #1577
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Ashes to Ashes: Why haven't we seen Ballard before? I sure don't remember her. This episode would have been far more meaningful if she had appeared earlier in the show and a relationship had been established between her and Harry. This episode doesn't have two feet to stand on.
4/10

Child's Play: 7 is becoming more human all the time. It's fascinating to watch, and I thought she was the real star of this episode. With that said, these Borg children have started to grow on me, so this episode carried much more emotional weight for me than the previous one. The twist at the end with Icheb and the pathogen, and his parents using him as bait for the Borg was unexpected. Solid offering all around.
7/10

Good Shepherd: Janeway gathers together the misfits of Voyager for an away mission! A lot of really great character moments in this one. Harren's scenes were especially great, in particular his scene with Tom in the lounge area. Each of the misfits had a nice character arc. Very satisfying episode.
7/10

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Old January 18 2013, 11:27 PM   #1578
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I really liked the Borg kids. Especially Icheb. It's a pity they got so few episodes (same with Naomi), but their characters ended up being more fleshed out than many of the other supporting characters on the show (like Joe Carey, who I'm not sure if Screed has noticed or not, but Carey hasn't been around in a while )
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Old January 19 2013, 01:02 AM   #1579
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I thought the Borg children were great! Icheb is an excellent character.

Ashes to Ashes is a good sci fi episode. Yes it might have been more interesting if we'd seen Ballard before but it still works for me.
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Old January 19 2013, 01:20 AM   #1580
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I really liked the Borg kids. Especially Icheb. It's a pity they got so few episodes (same with Naomi), but their characters ended up being more fleshed out than many of the other supporting characters on the show (like Joe Carey, who I'm not sure if Screed has noticed or not, but Carey hasn't been around in a while )
Oh yes, I remember him....he and Belanna didn't always get along, right? He must have been hiding away in his room for the past few years, if he didn't die....
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Old January 19 2013, 01:49 AM   #1581
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Oh yes, I remember him....he and Belanna didn't always get along, right? He must have been hiding away in his room for the past few years, if he didn't die....
He'll be back. He was in a season 5 episode (Relativity), and he's in an upcoming season 6 episode. He is also in a season 7 episode. Memorable performances from him, in all three.
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Old January 19 2013, 02:05 AM   #1582
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Good Shepherd: Janeway gathers together the misfits of Voyager for an away mission! A lot of really great character moments in this one. Harren's scenes were especially great, in particular his scene with Tom in the lounge area. Each of the misfits had a nice character arc. Very satisfying episode.
I liked Good Shepherd, too. It was the "Lower Decks" of Voyager. It was also the first and only time we see Deck 15.
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Old January 19 2013, 03:32 AM   #1583
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Ashes to Ashes: Why haven't we seen Ballard before? I sure don't remember her. This episode would have been far more meaningful if she had appeared earlier in the show and a relationship had been established between her and Harry. This episode doesn't have two feet to stand on.
4/10
Wasn't Harry supposed to be engaged to a woman back on Earth named Libby?

Child's Play: 7 is becoming more human all the time. It's fascinating to watch, and I thought she was the real star of this episode. With that said, these Borg children have started to grow on me, so this episode carried much more emotional weight for me than the previous one. The twist at the end with Icheb and the pathogen, and his parents using him as bait for the Borg was unexpected. Solid offering all around.
7/10
One of my favorite eps. in the series!
Great development ep. for Seven and a good one for fleshing out Icheb too. Plus, it's always great to see Mark A. Sheppard in anything. ( Never knew until 2 days ago his real life father was "Schizoid Man" and the Ahab alien from "Bliss".) Very exciting ending escaping the Borg Sphere! Damn, Voyager's a fast ass ship!

Good Shepherd: Janeway gathers together the misfits of Voyager for an away mission! A lot of really great character moments in this one. Harren's scenes were especially great, in particular his scene with Tom in the lounge area. Each of the misfits had a nice character arc. Very satisfying episode.
7/10
I still remember Harren as "The Boy Who Could Fly". I agree my favorite scene was the exchange between him & Tom and Janeway turning around in the pilots chair of the Delta Flyer and rolling her eyes at him.
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Old January 19 2013, 05:20 AM   #1584
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Ashes to Ashes: Why haven't we seen Ballard before? I sure don't remember her. This episode would have been far more meaningful if she had appeared earlier in the show and a relationship had been established between her and Harry. This episode doesn't have two feet to stand on.
4/10
While I was able to accept a crew member we never saw before in Latent Image Ashes to Ashes took it to absurd levels IMO. If someone had watched this episode first without knowing anything about VOY they would probably think that Ballard had been one of the main characters in the early seasons.
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Old January 19 2013, 08:58 AM   #1585
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Ballard should have been Kim. IMHO.
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Old January 19 2013, 09:22 AM   #1586
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Maybe?

I believe it should have been Hogan.

Hogan coming back from the dead and it comes to light, with us at least,that he had been sleeping with Janeway... Or does he barge his way inbetween B'Elanna and Tom is the love story of the zombie must persist.

However...

Kim was possible.

There was a Kim corpse floating in space after Deadlock.

Of course season 2 Kim comes back as a Zombie and doesn't choke even a little as he seduces Seven becuase she is the most beautiful woman in the world and after coming back from the dead he's not really scared of her saying yes when he asks a question anymore....

Holy shit.

I know what Ashes to ashes really is.

It's a rejected script they couldn't use to bring Kes back.

Think about it.

Maybe Jennifer was given both scripts and they said "pick one".

The original Ashes to Ashes would have been about her getting back with Neelix, not starting kinky sheet games with Kim.

Jennifer was given a choice. Go batshit and kill everyone or a love story with Ethan.

That makes sense right?

...

What about Barge of the Dead?

Paris says "Your girlfriend is dead? What a coincidence! 2 months ago so was mine!"
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Old January 19 2013, 10:16 AM   #1587
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A love story where no one remembers her? And in the end she decides these are just residual memories and she's really someone else now?

Or blowing up.

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Old January 19 2013, 06:10 PM   #1588
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Guy really should have been in writers' room. Deadlock Kim is genius. Plus split-screen Wang! I can do a Picardo/Mulgrew/Ryan/Lien/Dawson too. Come to think of it now, who didn't get to do a doppelganger episode?

I'd like to have seen the Doc's Vidiian girlfriend get one more appearance. I liked her.

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Old January 19 2013, 10:45 PM   #1589
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We're supposed to believe that he was a ken doll, and then spontaneously made himself a penis after meeting her? I'm sure he could handle the coding, but the Doctor is programmed to be contentedly cockless.

Denora being a real person, not so much.

(Sans moose knuckle not baloney pony. Get your head out of the gutter.)

"This is all fine, thank you for rescuing me, you're all wonderful, but how come I don't have any sexual organs?"

I'm assuming that sex with holograms is common place, and Zimmerman didnt' want to see his program drafted as a sex worker when he's supposed to be Doctoring.

The Doctor made her business which was his inspiration in defiance of his own programming to generate his own business.

But there's an erudite theory closely related to Godliclocks a nd the three bears that for every vagina out there there is the perfectly sized penis, not too big, not too small, but perfectly complementary, a package that elegantly fits in the box, and that's what everyone is looking for, not a sense of humour, not a nice car but something sexually complimentary. The right tool for the job.

The Doctor built both tools. Unless he was an idiot and ignored making it feel like a key sliding into lock because threading a chicken sausage down a bendy straw seems appealing to his fauxmachismo, he could have hypnotized her with unexpected simpatico of his goldilocks johnson.
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Old January 20 2013, 01:17 AM   #1590
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This is what spending too much time thinking about cars does to men. No all parts do not have to fit perfectly to run really really well.
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