2012 Oscar Nominations - Page 4

stj · January 18 2013, 01:30 AM

Aren't the studios the ones who decide which category they are going to push for a nomination? If they think it's easier to get a nomination and win for supporting actor, they lobby the academy members for that nomination, even when the role is a lead? Sally Field's Mary Todd Lincoln is the female lead in Lincoln. But an older actress is going to have a harder time than a young one. So when the studio did those ads and mailings they push for supporting actress. Isn't this sort of thing pretty much what happens?

CaptainCanada · January 18 2013, 02:44 AM

It's not the studio, the performer makes that call (the studio obviously has input, since they like to coordinate campaigns). Christoph Waltz switched abruptly from campaigning in lead to supporting this year (which worked out nicely for him), dropping in on his costars who'd been there the whole time.

Sally Field is the most prominent actress in Lincoln, but she is not an "actress in a leading role". The First Lady is clearly a supporting character. There have been any number of performances that blur the line between the two categories and where placement is arbitrary (Anthony Hopkins was thought to be a supporting actor in The Silence of the Lambs, but he asserted that he wanted to be considered a lead). Helen Hunt would be a better instance of a lead actress positioning herself as supporting this year for strategic reasons.

Gaith · January 18 2013, 04:02 PM

I doubt anything will ever top the silliness of Jamie Fox's Supporting Actor nomination for Collateral. He was in all but one or two brief scenes!

foxhot · January 18 2013, 11:51 PM

Foxx was second-billed, but he was at the very least the co-lead. Might you be thinking of COLLATERAL DAMAGE?

Gaith · January 19 2013, 12:11 AM

Uh, no. Look it up, Foxx was absolutely the lead, had rather more screen time than Cruise thanks to the opening sequence, and was still nominated for Supporting.

Greg Cox · January 20 2013, 08:26 PM

I seem to recall that some actress (whose name escapes me) won Best Supporting Actress for one scene in Network.

od0_ital · January 20 2013, 10:37 PM

^

Beatrice Straight.

Ned Beatty was nominated for best supportin' actor for his role in Network, which amounted to two or three scenes, but he only had dialogue in one.

DevilEyes · January 26 2013, 10:13 PM

Gaith wrote:

I doubt anything will ever top the silliness of Jamie Fox's Supporting Actor nomination for Collateral. He was in all but one or two brief scenes!

I think nothing tops Kevin Spacey being considered an actor in a supporting role for Usual Suspects - because, if he's not the lead in that movie, who the heck is?!

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January 18 2013, 01:30 AM	#46
stj Rear Admiral Location: the real world	Re: 2012 Oscar Nominations Aren't the studios the ones who decide which category they are going to push for a nomination? If they think it's easier to get a nomination and win for supporting actor, they lobby the academy members for that nomination, even when the role is a lead? Sally Field's Mary Todd Lincoln is the female lead in Lincoln. But an older actress is going to have a harder time than a young one. So when the studio did those ads and mailings they push for supporting actress. Isn't this sort of thing pretty much what happens? __________________ Morals are what you do to other people. Other people, what we call society, are essential to human happiness. Therefore, morals are the path to happiness. My morals, your happiness; your morals, my happiness: It's a fair trade.

January 18 2013, 02:44 AM	#47
CaptainCanada Admiral Location: Kingston, Ontario, Canada	Re: 2012 Oscar Nominations It's not the studio, the performer makes that call (the studio obviously has input, since they like to coordinate campaigns). Christoph Waltz switched abruptly from campaigning in lead to supporting this year (which worked out nicely for him), dropping in on his costars who'd been there the whole time. Sally Field is the most prominent actress in Lincoln, but she is not an "actress in a leading role". The First Lady is clearly a supporting character. There have been any number of performances that blur the line between the two categories and where placement is arbitrary (Anthony Hopkins was thought to be a supporting actor in The Silence of the Lambs, but he asserted that he wanted to be considered a lead). Helen Hunt would be a better instance of a lead actress positioning herself as supporting this year for strategic reasons. __________________ "I'm a white male, age 18 to 49. Everyone listens to me, no matter how dumb my suggestions are!" - Homer Simpson

January 18 2013, 04:02 PM	#48
Gaith Rear Admiral Location: Starfleet Command, The City that Knows How	Re: 2012 Oscar Nominations I doubt anything will ever top the silliness of Jamie Fox's Supporting Actor nomination for Collateral. He was in all but one or two brief scenes!

January 18 2013, 11:51 PM	#49
foxhot Captain Location: maryland	Re: 2012 Oscar Nominations Foxx was second-billed, but he was at the very least the co-lead. Might you be thinking of COLLATERAL DAMAGE?

January 19 2013, 12:11 AM	#50
Gaith Rear Admiral Location: Starfleet Command, The City that Knows How	Re: 2012 Oscar Nominations Uh, no. Look it up, Foxx was absolutely the lead, had rather more screen time than Cruise thanks to the opening sequence, and was still nominated for Supporting.

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January 20 2013, 08:26 PM	#51
Greg Cox Vice Admiral Location: Oxford, PA	Re: 2012 Oscar Nominations I seem to recall that some actress (whose name escapes me) won Best Supporting Actress for one scene in Network. __________________ www.gregcox-author.com

January 20 2013, 10:37 PM	#52
od0_ital Admiral Location: Austin, Texas	Re: 2012 Oscar Nominations ^ Beatrice Straight. Ned Beatty was nominated for best supportin' actor for his role in Network, which amounted to two or three scenes, but he only had dialogue in one. __________________ od0's bucket od0's facebook

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