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Old January 16 2013, 01:36 PM   #16
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Re: DS9's 20th Anniversary

They're out to get you, Andrew!
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Old January 17 2013, 06:57 AM   #17
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I just checked on S&S and it does have Revelations and Dust down as just Star Trek: The Fall. So it looks like it will probably just be "The Fall" with no series specific logos.
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Old January 17 2013, 03:26 PM   #18
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On the literary treks audio thing, Una said that her Fall book was Picard and Garak on Cardassia. Sounds exciting
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Old January 17 2013, 03:27 PM   #19
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They should call it Star Trek: Deep Space Nine: Typhon Pact: The Fall: Revelations and Dust. Rolls right off the tongue.
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Old January 17 2013, 04:50 PM   #20
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Sounds like a big seller to me!
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Old January 17 2013, 09:40 PM   #21
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The Section 31 novels were each labelled with the series logo, so there isn't a reason The Fall couldn't be the same.
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Old January 17 2013, 11:06 PM   #22
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The Section 31 novels were each labelled with the series logo, so there isn't a reason The Fall couldn't be the same.
That's not a very good analogy, since the S31 books were all completely independent of each other, connected only by the fact that they all involved that group in some way. (Not unlike the first four Typhon Pact books, in fact, showing that whether the series titles are used or not has more to do with the marketing department's decisions than with story content.) The Fall sounds to me like it's more akin to Gateways, in that its volumes are exploring different phases of a single quadrant-spanning event.
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Old January 18 2013, 01:25 PM   #23
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Gateways, which also featured each series' title.

That said, I think in a lot of ways it's better when they leave it off. The whole "Star Trek: The Next Generation # (whatever): Invasion #2: The Soliders Of Fear" chains of titles thing is a bit cumbersome. With Typhon Pact, for instance, it was fairly trivial to tell looking at the covers which series got focus in each entry. As long as they keep doing that, and don't just throw ambiguous space scenes or something on the cover, I say keep the text simple.

I realize this is an extremely minor detail either way.
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Old January 18 2013, 01:47 PM   #24
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Gateways, which also featured each series' title.
Which, as I already said, doesn't prove anything, because the title choices aren't about a difference in content, but about a difference in marketing strategy between then and now. Years ago, before Destiny came out, something like Typhon Pact would've had individual series titles. But Destiny was a crossover that wasn't subdivided by series, and it sold big, so the sales department wanted to make Typhon Pact look like Destiny even though the initial four books were really more of a loose thematic crossover like Section 31 or Day of Honor had been.

So since The Fall is another Big Event miniseries, I'd expect it to have no individual series titles.
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A slight misunderstanding of the point you were making; I apologize. We're on the same page here.
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Old January 18 2013, 10:30 PM   #26
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They should call it Star Trek: Deep Space Nine: Typhon Pact: The Fall: Revelations and Dust. Rolls right off the tongue.


Regarding the whole how much a logo really matters thing - I don't really care normally about such things, it's just a logo, what's important is the story.


However, in this case, the fact that novels haven't been labeled as DS9 for so long is indicative of that series' stagnation, for reasons which have been discussed at length before. Fortunately, DS9 has continued on in TrekLit crossovers/events, with great writers continuing those stories. But I would still like to see the continuation of DS9 outside of the wider TrekLit events (which themselves owe much to the DS9 relaunch in some ways), not for DS9 to be simply subsumed into the wider TrekLit world and loose its identity.
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Old January 30 2013, 09:44 AM   #27
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Only slightly related to the topic of the thread, but this was the most fitting recent thread:

KRAD has confirmed that he will do a DS9 rewatch for tor.com, once his TNG rewatch is done.
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Old January 30 2013, 01:21 PM   #28
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Wow for a second there I hoped you were going say "do a DS9 novel". Then my hopes were dashed.
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Old January 30 2013, 01:25 PM   #29
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They should call it Star Trek: Deep Space Nine: Typhon Pact: The Fall: Revelations and Dust. Rolls right off the tongue.


Regarding the whole how much a logo really matters thing - I don't really care normally about such things, it's just a logo, what's important is the story.


However, in this case, the fact that novels haven't been labeled as DS9 for so long is indicative of that series' stagnation, for reasons which have been discussed at length before. Fortunately, DS9 has continued on in TrekLit crossovers/events, with great writers continuing those stories. But I would still like to see the continuation of DS9 outside of the wider TrekLit events (which themselves owe much to the DS9 relaunch in some ways), not for DS9 to be simply subsumed into the wider TrekLit world and loose its identity.
Another way of looking at it (and bear in mind I'm an unashamed Niner) is that rolling DS9 into the wider Trekverse has improved the rest of the Trekverse !
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Old January 30 2013, 02:17 PM   #30
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Wow for a second there I hoped you were going say "do a DS9 novel". Then my hopes were dashed.
I would have definitely opened a new thread for that.
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