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Old January 17 2013, 12:18 AM   #166
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Just to be fair here--though Voyager is my least favorite Trek show--the "cut off from home" premise was meant to make the exploration feel more like early TOS. However, you can never have that premise with a working starship, as presented in Star Trek. Firstly, you are in the galaxy, not limited by the resources of one planet, and equipped with a warp drive to access it all. Secondly, as long as you have raw material or even certain molecules, you can create anything with a replicator! Thirdly, the worst factor would not be survival but human frailty...psychological effects of space and conflict, missing loved ones, etc. But even here you have holodecks for therapy, counselors, and let's not forget, some very effective UFP ideology and training, for a crew that were mostly officers. Yes, these people are not the dim-bulbs from NuBSG who try to settle on planets when they should be running from the enemy. Ideology is what can make the impossible possible, as with the communists in Vietnam, bombing builldings with airplanes, or sending men to the moon.
Granted, but you would still expect a Captain to try to conserve energy and resources in a situation like that, and not let the crew waste it on so many silly Holodeck adventures. And having the ship survive countless Kazon and Borg(!) attacks with no lasting repurcussions or damage strained credibility to the breaking point as well.

Hell, even after a minor skirmish Picard would usually set course for the nearest Starbase at the end of an episode-- and that was for a freakin powerful, Galaxy-class starship! I have to imagine the dinky little Voyager would be in even more dire straights.

I didn't need VOY to be perfectly realistic or anything, but the show barely even tried to take it's premise seriously.
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Old January 17 2013, 05:05 AM   #167
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There are two types of shows: Procedural vs. Serialized.

* Procedural or episodic shows are stand alone episodes. There may be arcs that connect shows. These shows have a built-in reset button which sets the show back to default. Most of Star Trek has been of this type.

* Serialized shows are a chain of connected episodes. There is no reset button. Storylines, characters, and, sometimes, settings change over the course of the series. Enterprise experimented with serialization in its third season.

http://seriable.com/serialized-vs-pr...vision-series/

The premise of Voyager was best suited for serialization; however, the show was done as a procedural.
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Old January 17 2013, 01:46 PM   #168
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Rob was alluding to the BOBW Standalone Disc but also the very special features he's produced for it... and possibly more ;-)
Oh, I do hope that those features make it onto a season set. I am not going to be parting with my cash twice no matter how good the VAM. That doesn't mean I don't want to see the VAM though!


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Wow. I'm not sure how to say this without being rude, but seeing this picture (A good looking picture by the way) makes me feel old.
Makes me feel old too but I can only hope I look as good when I reach her age.
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Old January 17 2013, 03:29 PM   #169
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Granted, but you would still expect a Captain to try to conserve energy and resources in a situation like that, and not let the crew waste it on so many silly Holodeck adventures.
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They actually explained the ability to use the holodecks away on-screen in one of the worst cop-outs written into any sci-fi show. Apparently the holodecks have their own incompatible power reactors, they tried out them to boost ships power and "blew out the power grid on two decks" - wow a test might have been a good idea before just plugging them in.

I actually really like Voyager, and am in the camp that it shouldnt just have become nuBSG, but even I thought this one was a bit silly, why not just have everyone eat on the holodeck then???

And having the ship survive countless Kazon and Borg(!) attacks with no lasting repurcussions or damage strained credibility to the breaking point as well.
It certainly didn't help. They did put damage during episodes, like Equinox for example, but it was always gone by the next week.
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Old January 17 2013, 04:16 PM   #170
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Wow. I'm not sure how to say this without being rude, but seeing this picture (A good looking picture by the way) makes me feel old.
Makes me feel old too but I can only hope I look as good when I reach her age.
Indeed. She looks pretty good to me.
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Old January 17 2013, 04:35 PM   #171
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Wow. I'm not sure how to say this without being rude, but seeing this picture (A good looking picture by the way) makes me feel old.
Makes me feel old too but I can only hope I look as good when I reach her age.
Indeed. She looks pretty good to me.
Kinda how I's imagine Bernadette from "Big Bang Theory" looking when she gets older.
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Old January 17 2013, 05:53 PM   #172
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I can't wait... The nanotechnology ep is the first one... And has an even bigger baseball fanatic than captain sisko lol, playing out entire seasons in his head
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Old January 17 2013, 06:50 PM   #173
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There are two types of shows: Procedural vs. Serialized.

* Procedural or episodic shows are stand alone episodes. There may be arcs that connect shows. These shows have a built-in reset button which sets the show back to default. Most of Star Trek has been of this type.

* Serialized shows are a chain of connected episodes. There is no reset button. Storylines, characters, and, sometimes, settings change over the course of the series. Enterprise experimented with serialization in its third season.

http://seriable.com/serialized-vs-pr...vision-series/

The premise of Voyager was best suited for serialization; however, the show was done as a procedural.
Agree with you there.
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Old January 17 2013, 07:49 PM   #174
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Final part is up folks: http://tng.trekcore.com/bluray/01172...rburnett7.html

Burnett's thoughts on a new Trek TV series, new TNG movie, why he'll always be such a crazy fan and Next Gen's Season 2 remastering.

Thanks for everyone's awesome comments - Rob was an absolute joy to talk to, and the feedback has been amazing
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Old January 17 2013, 08:31 PM   #175
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You talked to him for 3 HOURS? Man, Trekcore is really becoming the go to destination for exclusives and stuff like that. You've done a great job growing the site and making it a powerhouse.
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You talked to him for 3 HOURS? Man, Trekcore is really becoming the go to destination for exclusives and stuff like that. You've done a great job growing the site and making it a powerhouse.
We actually talked for longer - there's a whole new part on "Free Enterprise" coming, but the 7-part feature you see was 3 hours!

I'm grateful for the wonderful feedback, it's great motivation to keep going. Not always easy when things have developed so fast and I have such limited resources.

Oh - and I just wrapped an awesome 90 minute interview with Roger Lay, Jr. on Monday with some fantastic information about the upcoming TNG and Enterprise Blu-Ray releases. Watch out for it next week!
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Old January 17 2013, 11:31 PM   #177
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You talked to him for 3 HOURS? Man, Trekcore is really becoming the go to destination for exclusives and stuff like that. You've done a great job growing the site and making it a powerhouse.

I'm grateful for the wonderful feedback, it's great motivation to keep going. Not always easy when things have developed so fast and I have such limited resources.
Well, if there is any more motivation, I've added your RSS feed to my bookmark toolbar. You know at least one person is reading.
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It's been over 20 years.
Just looked on her page at Memory Alpha, she's only 52. Man she was a lot younger than she looked back then. Looking good for 52.
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Old January 18 2013, 01:27 AM   #179
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Rob was alluding to the BOBW Standalone Disc but also the very special features he's produced for it... and possibly more ;-)
I'm hoping that he means there will be more CGI wrecked starships from Wolf 359 in addition to the models we saw, but that's probably not what he means.
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Old January 18 2013, 05:03 AM   #180
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It's been over 20 years.
Just looked on her page at Memory Alpha, she's only 52. Man she was a lot younger than she looked back then. Looking good for 52.
I have to admit, it IS kind of fun to look up what some of these guest stars look like now, after watching these episodes again.

Whether it's Riva from Loud as a Whisper or the girl from Coming of Age.
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