My "Just Saw Insurrection For the First Time" Review. - Page 6

AllStarEntprise · January 15 2013, 10:26 AM

Kevin W. wrote:

Well, I watched Insurrection. It turns out it was on Syfy, not BBCA.

There were bits cut for time, as expected. For some reason, the part where you actually see the Son'a crew get transported from their ship to the holoship wasn't show, among other parts. Considering it's important to the ending, I don't know why it was cut.

Honestly, it's not a good film. It's just middle of the road. It's not The Final Frontier bad, but it's not The Wrath of Khan great.

Now all you have to do is watch Nemesis.

Flying Spaghetti Monster · January 17 2013, 09:52 PM

J. Allen wrote:

The Insurrection commentary, with Frakes and Sirtis, is hilarious. I want them to do all of the TNG movie commentaries now.

How does one acquire this commentary. I don't believe it was on the DVD

BillJ · January 17 2013, 10:07 PM

Flying Spaghetti Monster wrote:

J. Allen wrote:

The Insurrection commentary, with Frakes and Sirtis, is hilarious. I want them to do all of the TNG movie commentaries now.

How does one acquire this commentary. I don't believe it was on the DVD

I think it's only on the Special Edition DVD.

DonIago · January 17 2013, 10:10 PM

(resists urge to make jokes about Insurrection and "special")

BillJ · January 17 2013, 10:14 PM

BillJ wrote:

Flying Spaghetti Monster wrote:

J. Allen wrote:

The Insurrection commentary, with Frakes and Sirtis, is hilarious. I want them to do all of the TNG movie commentaries now.

How does one acquire this commentary. I don't believe it was on the DVD

I think it's only on the Special Edition DVD.

I stand corrected. It is on the Blu-ray version as well, I've never actually pulled the case out of the slip cover before now.

Lance · January 17 2013, 10:38 PM

I just thought of something: in that third season episode where Picard is replaced by a doppelganger, the thing which makes Riker twig that he isn't really Picard is that he leads Ten Forward in a rousing sing-along... something he knows the Captain would never do. Surely when Picard says "Do you know the words of HMS Pinafore?", Worf should be unholstering his phaser and asking "Who are you and what have you done with the Captain"?

DonIago · January 18 2013, 04:00 AM

Clearly Picard was already being affected by the rings.

AllStarEntprise · January 18 2013, 05:23 AM

Lance wrote:

I just thought of something: in that third season episode where Picard is replaced by a doppelganger, the thing which makes Riker twig that he isn't really Picard is that he leads Ten Forward in a rousing sing-along... something he knows the Captain would never do. Surely when Picard says "Do you know the words of HMS Pinafore?", Worf should be unholstering his phaser and asking "Who are you and what have you done with the Captain"?

^ lmao

Movie Picard ≠ Show Picard

Just like Movie Worf ≠ to Show Worf
Worf would kill Picard over and insult (FC) but is terrified of Sisko (DS9).

JarodRussell · January 18 2013, 11:56 AM

AllStarEntprise wrote:

Lance wrote:

I just thought of something: in that third season episode where Picard is replaced by a doppelganger, the thing which makes Riker twig that he isn't really Picard is that he leads Ten Forward in a rousing sing-along... something he knows the Captain would never do. Surely when Picard says "Do you know the words of HMS Pinafore?", Worf should be unholstering his phaser and asking "Who are you and what have you done with the Captain"?

^ lmao

Movie Picard ≠ Show Picard

Why do I see a difference between a rousing sing-along in Ten Forward which he never ever did before, and to sing one song where he explains that it will divert the attention of the android they're trying to catch?

Besides that, Picard has been shown to grow as a character. In the final episode of TNG, he joins the Poker game for the very first time ever. Over the course of the show, he started to like and get along with children. And more of that stuff.

DonIago · January 18 2013, 04:58 PM

Pretty sure Lance was being facetious.

JediKnightButler · January 18 2013, 10:29 PM

INS was a letdown after the fantastic FC. I didn't like how they essentially regressed Data after his development in the previous 2 movies (what's the deal with his emotion chip, anyway? It can be removed now?), I didn't really like some of the corny jokes (i.e. boobs) and I just didn't think that it lived up to its title as the Admiral was clearly in the wrong and, apparently he wasn't entirely operating with full sanction and was easily overridden by the Fed Council, so it wasn't like the crew took any huge risks in defying him- aside from the fact that they were in a fairly remote part of space at the time. Not to mention, the Son'a were mostly just a bunch of goons and didn't make particularly memorable villians (though it would have been interesting to explore their ties to the Dominion in DS9). I will say, though, that it was still mostly enjoyable. I loved the space battle at the end and the dialogue was mostly o.k. I liked the debate between Picard and Dougherty. Another thing that I liked was that they kept the "changes" that happened to the crew. Riker and Troi got back together (and got married in the next movie) and Geordi kept his eyes. Ultimately, it just didn't add up to much though but like with most of the Trek films I'm usually able to enjoy some of the better stuff and weed out some of the other stuff

sonak · January 19 2013, 04:26 AM

JediKnightButler wrote:

INS was a letdown after the fantastic FC. I didn't like how they essentially regressed Data after his development in the previous 2 movies (what's the deal with his emotion chip, anyway? It can be removed now?), I didn't really like some of the corny jokes (i.e. boobs) and I just didn't think that it lived up to its title as the Admiral was clearly in the wrong and, apparently he wasn't entirely operating with full sanction and was easily overridden by the Fed Council, so it wasn't like the crew took any huge risks in defying him- aside from the fact that they were in a fairly remote part of space at the time. Not to mention, the Son'a were mostly just a bunch of goons and didn't make particularly memorable villians (though it would have been interesting to explore their ties to the Dominion in DS9). I will say, though, that it was still mostly enjoyable. I loved the space battle at the end and the dialogue was mostly o.k. I liked the debate between Picard and Dougherty. Another thing that I liked was that they kept the "changes" that happened to the crew. Riker and Troi got back together (and got married in the next movie) and Geordi kept his eyes. Ultimately, it just didn't add up to much though but like with most of the Trek films I'm usually able to enjoy some of the better stuff and weed out some of the other stuff

the admiral was "clearly in the wrong," eh? I guess all those debates on this forum about INS and the premise can just be forgotten now, thanks!

BillJ · January 19 2013, 03:14 PM

JediKnightButler wrote:

I just didn't think that it lived up to its title as the Admiral was clearly in the wrong and, apparently he wasn't entirely operating with full sanction and was easily overridden by the Fed Council...

The only thing the movie alludes to is that the relocation was being reviewed not halted.

If six hundred people are sitting on a cure for cancer, I'd move them in a heartbeat.

Peach Wookiee · January 20 2013, 04:55 PM

AllStarEntprise wrote:

Lance wrote:

I just thought of something: in that third season episode where Picard is replaced by a doppelganger, the thing which makes Riker twig that he isn't really Picard is that he leads Ten Forward in a rousing sing-along... something he knows the Captain would never do. Surely when Picard says "Do you know the words of HMS Pinafore?", Worf should be unholstering his phaser and asking "Who are you and what have you done with the Captain"?

^ lmao

Movie Picard ≠ Show Picard

Just like Movie Worf ≠ to Show Worf
Worf would kill Picard over and insult (FC) but is terrified of Sisko (DS9).

Worf is "intimidated" by Sisko, not terrified. Sisko has a different aura than Picard, I think.

sonak · January 20 2013, 06:19 PM

Peach Wookiee wrote:

AllStarEntprise wrote:

Lance wrote:

I just thought of something: in that third season episode where Picard is replaced by a doppelganger, the thing which makes Riker twig that he isn't really Picard is that he leads Ten Forward in a rousing sing-along... something he knows the Captain would never do. Surely when Picard says "Do you know the words of HMS Pinafore?", Worf should be unholstering his phaser and asking "Who are you and what have you done with the Captain"?

^ lmao

Movie Picard ≠ Show Picard

Just like Movie Worf ≠ to Show Worf
Worf would kill Picard over and insult (FC) but is terrified of Sisko (DS9).

Worf is "intimidated" by Sisko, not terrified. Sisko has a different aura than Picard, I think.

yes, his chakras are definitely more negatively aligned.

January 17 2013, 10:10 PM	#79
DonIago Rear Admiral Location: Burlington, VT, USA	Re: My "Just Saw Insurrection For the First Time" Review. (resists urge to make jokes about Insurrection and "special") __________________ --DonIago It was the best of Trek, it was the worst of Trek... "If I lean over, I leave myself open to wedgies, wet willies, or even the dreaded Rear Admiral!"

January 17 2013, 10:38 PM	#81
Lance Captain Location: The Enterprise's Restroom	Re: My "Just Saw Insurrection For the First Time" Review. I just thought of something: in that third season episode where Picard is replaced by a doppelganger, the thing which makes Riker twig that he isn't really Picard is that he leads Ten Forward in a rousing sing-along... something he knows the Captain would never do. Surely when Picard says "Do you know the words of HMS Pinafore?", Worf should be unholstering his phaser and asking "Who are you and what have you done with the Captain"?

January 18 2013, 04:00 AM	#82
DonIago Rear Admiral Location: Burlington, VT, USA	Re: My "Just Saw Insurrection For the First Time" Review. Clearly Picard was already being affected by the rings. __________________ --DonIago It was the best of Trek, it was the worst of Trek... "If I lean over, I leave myself open to wedgies, wet willies, or even the dreaded Rear Admiral!"

January 18 2013, 04:58 PM	#85
DonIago Rear Admiral Location: Burlington, VT, USA	Re: My "Just Saw Insurrection For the First Time" Review. Pretty sure Lance was being facetious. __________________ --DonIago It was the best of Trek, it was the worst of Trek... "If I lean over, I leave myself open to wedgies, wet willies, or even the dreaded Rear Admiral!"

January 18 2013, 10:29 PM	#86
JediKnightButler Captain Location: Indianapolis, Indiana	Re: My "Just Saw Insurrection For the First Time" Review. INS was a letdown after the fantastic FC. I didn't like how they essentially regressed Data after his development in the previous 2 movies (what's the deal with his emotion chip, anyway? It can be removed now?), I didn't really like some of the corny jokes (i.e. boobs) and I just didn't think that it lived up to its title as the Admiral was clearly in the wrong and, apparently he wasn't entirely operating with full sanction and was easily overridden by the Fed Council, so it wasn't like the crew took any huge risks in defying him- aside from the fact that they were in a fairly remote part of space at the time. Not to mention, the Son'a were mostly just a bunch of goons and didn't make particularly memorable villians (though it would have been interesting to explore their ties to the Dominion in DS9). I will say, though, that it was still mostly enjoyable. I loved the space battle at the end and the dialogue was mostly o.k. I liked the debate between Picard and Dougherty. Another thing that I liked was that they kept the "changes" that happened to the crew. Riker and Troi got back together (and got married in the next movie) and Geordi kept his eyes. Ultimately, it just didn't add up to much though but like with most of the Trek films I'm usually able to enjoy some of the better stuff and weed out some of the other stuff __________________ Do or do not. There is no try.

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