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Old January 15 2013, 04:47 PM   #16
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Re: What unseen Star Trek event do you want to read about next?

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As for unseen events:

WWIII to Enterprise
I pitched that to Pocket, but got no interest. It wouldn't feature enough familiar characters or elements to be marketable.


Cardassian War
Portions of this were depicted in Jeri Taylor's Mosaic and Pathways. It didn't seem to be a single major war so much as a series of on-and-off border conflicts.


Invention of Transporters
Versions of this have been shown in the Wildstorm graphic novel Forgiveness and the Lives of Dax story "Dead Man's Hand," though neither is compatible with canon anymore. There was also an issue of Marvel's post-TMP comic that dealt with it indirectly.

The problem with exploring the invention of the transporter in the current continuity is that it would require revisiting ideas from "Daedalus," which was probably the worst 4th-season ENT episode other than the series finale and that has major continuity errors in it. (How could Emory Erickson have done research in an empty void of space a hundred light years in radius over a decade before NX-01 was launched, given that NX-01's crew were the first humans to go more than a hundred light years from Earth?)


Enterprises B&C
We've seen a few of their adventures. The E-B in The Captain's Daughter, "Shakedown" in Enterprise Logs, Serpents Among the Ruins, and "Iron and Sacrifice" in Tales from the Captain's Table, and the E-C in Well of Souls, Vulcan's Heart, and "Hour of Fire" in Enterprise Logs.
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Old January 15 2013, 05:10 PM   #17
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Re: What unseen Star Trek event do you want to read about next?

World War III was already covered in Federation. It may not fit with the TV/film continuity anymore, but it would be an almighty effort to top it quality-wise. Wanting another WWIII book just to tick some post-FC continuity porn boxes seems a little pointless to me.
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Old January 15 2013, 05:24 PM   #18
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Re: What unseen Star Trek event do you want to read about next?

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As for unseen events:

WWIII to Enterprise
I pitched that to Pocket, but got no interest. It wouldn't feature enough familiar characters or elements to be marketable.
I know this is difficult to answer since you might get to tell this story another time but how might you have done it?
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Old January 15 2013, 06:34 PM   #19
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As for unseen events:

WWIII to Enterprise
I pitched that to Pocket, but got no interest. It wouldn't feature enough familiar characters or elements to be marketable.
I know this is difficult to answer since you might get to tell this story another time but how might you have done it?
I didn't have solid plans, but I thought it would be cool to organize a multi-author collaboration, sort of a cross between how Mere Anarchy and Vanguard were done. A series of books spanning the whole era and covering major events in that time, from early human-Vulcan relations to the founding of the first human colonies and the rise of the Space Boomers to the Warp 5 Project. But I never actually talked to anyone else about it -- I thought I should float it with the editor first and see if there was any prospect for it before I got anyone else involved.

But it would've been difficult to pull off, and wouldn't have felt too much like Trek, because we couldn't really have used that many aliens -- Vulcans mostly, plus maybe Denobulans and Draylaxians at some point -- and the technology would've been a lot less advanced. It would've felt more like an original near-future SF series than a Trek series -- which would've been an interesting challenge for me creatively, but probably not an easy sell for Trek readers. In retrospect, though, it's more fun to do something like Rise of the Federation where I've got a lot of aliens and interstellar politics and such to play with. And it might give me the opportunity to explore the pre-ENT period in retrospect, at least to some degree.
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Old January 15 2013, 06:51 PM   #20
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World War III was already covered in Federation. It may not fit with the TV/film continuity anymore, but it would be an almighty effort to top it quality-wise. Wanting another WWIII book just to tick some post-FC continuity porn boxes seems a little pointless to me.
Bizzarely enough, I started to read Federation yesterday, and Christopher is correct of course, the Cochrane scenes don't read like Star Trek at all, but as a lover of sci-fi in general, I found those scenes to be the best part of the book.
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Old January 15 2013, 07:06 PM   #21
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Trek should probably go into the far future instead, and go back to it's roots, in exploration and awe - [...] - Star Trek should be creative and awe inspiring - we might as well have wormhole-drives and exploration of other galaxies.
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I'd like to see the time past the 24th century as well. I like the current iterations, of course, but it is tempting to see what's beyond and so many hints of what could happen.

When will the Federation expand into different quadrants and into the Mirror Universe (the Galatic Commonwealth is ripe for a merger) and make the first steps into nearby galaxies?
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Old January 15 2013, 07:10 PM   #22
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It could be really awesome - it could work as a series too, if CBS don't want to go with the new timeline - like early TNG and ENT, it would be like a new beginning, full of awe.

Also a chance to have some far-future technology that is more in line with current expectations, such as space suits that are basically like the Liquid Metal Terminator - you just step into the blob, and it forms around you - flies under it's own power, etc.







Early TNG is often derided, but actually, the sense of awe and experimentation in season one was sometimes great - like when The Traveler catapults the Enterprise across the galactic supercluster.

Or when Riker is talking about that legendary planet, and it de-cloaks in front of them. The sense of weird, wonderful, exotic, wacky places that was absent in subsequent series.
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Old January 15 2013, 07:16 PM   #23
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Re: What unseen Star Trek event do you want to read about next?

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As for unseen events:

Bajoran resistance
I thought that was fairly well covered in the Terok Nor Lost Era books:

Day of the Vipers · James Swallow
Night of the Wolves · S.D. Perry & Britta Dennison
Dawn of the Eagles · S.D. Perry & Britta Dennison

Day of Vipers is awesome. The other to books are pretty good but James Swallow set a pretty high bar with the first book.

I think there was also some resistance stuff covered in The Rebels trilogy by Dafyd ab Hugh although I don't remember those books being particularly good.
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Old January 15 2013, 07:32 PM   #24
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As for unseen events:

WWIII to Enterprise
Cardassian War
Invention of Transporters
The Pegasus incedent (original)
Other races aftermath of the Desiny events, not just the Federation
Bajoran resistance
Enterprises B&C
As a kid, I liked to imagine that the transporters were based on the technology invented in THE FLY . . . .

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Old January 15 2013, 07:50 PM   #25
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I pitched that to Pocket, but got no interest. It wouldn't feature enough familiar characters or elements to be marketable.
Whilst I'm not overly bothered about that particular story, I hope they ease up on that at some point because I really think the novelverse continuity will only really mature as it moves away from the TV shows.
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Old January 15 2013, 08:11 PM   #26
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My my, aren't we a war-loving bunch (including yours truly)?
Pretty much, yes. My vote also is for the Cardassian Wars.
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Old January 15 2013, 08:19 PM   #27
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Re: What unseen Star Trek event do you want to read about next?

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I pitched that to Pocket, but got no interest. It wouldn't feature enough familiar characters or elements to be marketable.
Whilst I'm not overly bothered about that particular story, I hope they ease up on that at some point because I really think the novelverse continuity will only really mature as it moves away from the TV shows.
I don't know. Just to play devil's advocate, I don't think it's entirely unreasonable to assume that the average reader wants a STAR TREK novel to bear some resemblance to the movies and TV shows. Presumedly, that's why they picked up a STAR TREK novel in the first place, instead of an original sf novel.

I mean, suppose you picked up a Sherlock Holmes novel, expecting to find Holmes and Watson up to their old tricks on Baker Street, only to discover that it was about a pair of detectives named Bartleby and Malone, who were working out of a brothel in Berlin, that Holmes had retired, and that Watson was now working independently as an undercover operative in Argentina, alongside a reformed Sebastian Moran . . . .

Now, you might well find this very exciting and intriguing, or you might also react negatively. "Hey, I wanted to read a Sherlock Holmes story . . . who the heck is this Bartleby character?"
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Old January 15 2013, 08:45 PM   #28
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I could understand it, I just think they'd be wrong.
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Old January 15 2013, 08:59 PM   #29
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I could understand it, I just think they'd be wrong.
Unless, of course, they just wanted a Sherlock Holmes (or Star Trek) fix . . . .
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Old January 15 2013, 09:04 PM   #30
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Regarding the Cardassian Wars, we also have James Swallow's 'The Slow Knife' in the Seven Deadly Sins Anthology
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