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Old January 11 2013, 10:05 AM   #31
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Re: "Best of both Worlds" - Special Bluray Release

If this BOBW-SE release will be worldwide as stated before, i highly doubt they will cut it any other way than the existing movie cut, which has the deflector scene missing.
Otherwise they would have to alter every single dubbing track of the various languages to match, because they do either fit to the seperated episodes, or the movie with the missing sequence.

Nice edit btw you've made there, Maxwell.
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Old January 11 2013, 12:55 PM   #32
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Given that they have access to all of the old footage, it's possible that they have found a slick way to edit it together.
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Old January 11 2013, 01:40 PM   #33
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Here's my version that I described above:

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That's pretty good! Much better than the nasty butchery work I was used to before.
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Old January 11 2013, 10:07 PM   #34
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I love this idea, and yes im buying it!!

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Old January 11 2013, 11:24 PM   #35
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If this BOBW-SE release will be worldwide as stated before, i highly doubt they will cut it any other way than the existing movie cut, which has the deflector scene missing.
Otherwise they would have to alter every single dubbing track of the various languages to match, because they do either fit to the seperated episodes, or the movie with the missing sequence.
The existing movie version, from what I can see on Memory Alpha, was only released in PAL regions (and with the other 2-part episodes, aside from Chains Of Command, only the ones originally aired as feature-length movies have been released to the rest of the world), and more exactly just the UK. But considering what CBS has done with The Measure of A Man, and even further back when Paramount released the season sets of Voyager and Enterprise and they used the UPN masters, which featured scenes not included in the international masters, I wouldn't be surprised if the feature version did include extra scene's---plus considering that Best Of Both Worlds ranks up there with Measure of A Man as some of the top episodes of the series---it wouldn't surprise me to see some scene extensions.
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Old January 12 2013, 01:59 AM   #36
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There's a lovely scene with Riker and Deanna in the ready room near the beginning of Part 2 that I hope they put back in. It's in my novelization of the episode.
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Old January 12 2013, 02:36 AM   #37
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I've only skimmed the thread so maybe this question has been answered, but if they are making it a movie, how will they include the very end score of part 1. One of the reasons why that cliffhanger works so well is after you get "Mr. Worf, Fire", it cuts to To be Continued and you get that famous score. With the movie, it seemed like that would be lost.
Here's my version that I described above:

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Your recut handled the cliffhanger waaay better than the feature length version I had on VHS as a kid which cut right to the deflector beam firing.

Its a shame there really isnt a way of having the entire cue in the feature edit, its easily the greatest one in TNG.

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Old January 12 2013, 04:06 AM   #38
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There's a lovely scene with Riker and Deanna in the ready room near the beginning of Part 2 that I hope they put back in. It's in my novelization of the episode.
Riker and Guinan?
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Old January 12 2013, 08:29 AM   #39
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Nope, Riker and Deanna.

Here's the script version...

15 INT. CAPTAIN'S READY ROOM

Riker stands at the window, now wearing a Captain's
rank, looks around... moves closer to Picard's
desk... and studies the empty chair... and it is a
symbol of the man... and he cannot bring himself to
sit there. So he sits in the chair he always sits
in... facing the Captain's desk. A chime. He
reacts... stands...

RIKER
Come.

Troi ENTERS. Riker is glad to see her, smiles, warm.

RIKER
Hi.

TROI
You wanted to see me?

And already it's different between them... he is the
Captain now and that inherently creates an emotional
barrier.

RIKER
How's the crew?

TROI
Throwing themselves into the work
to be done... the emotional impact
hasn't been fully realized yet...

RIKER
(understands)
I guess Starfleet training kicks
in and takes over...

STAR TREK: "Worlds" Part Two - REV. 7/6/90 - ACT ONE 8.

15 CONTINUED:

TROI
(acknowledges)
We know the risks, tell ourselves
we're prepared for the
consequences... and yet, something
like this cuts deeper than we can
admit at first. He was our
Captain. It's like losing the
leader of a nation or the head
of a family.

RIKER
(a beat)
He was more of a father to me than
my own.

Troi nods sympathetically...

RIKER
When I saw him like that...
mutilated...

TROI
You did what you had to do...
nobody doubts your love for him...

RIKER
Was there any part of him left,
Deanna?

TROI
(slow)
Yes. I can still sense his
humanity

RIKER
(looks down)
Then you must have sensed his
pain...

Her silence tells him she does.

RIKER
I don't envy your abilities.

He cannot stay with the intensity of this moment...
Breaking the tension --

STAR TREK: "Worlds" Part Two - REV. 7/6/90 - ACT ONE 9.

15 CONTINUED: (2)

RIKER
I'd better check on the progress
of our repairs...
(beat)
There won't be any changes... as
far as I'm concerned it's his
ship, his crew... and everything
we do, every battle we fight, it's
for him.
(beat, warm)
I'm glad you're here to help me
with this.

TROI
Thank you, Captain.

And as they both realize their intimacy will be never
quite the same again.

RIKER
(dismissed)
Counselor...

Their eyes say more than their words. And as she
leaves, we stay a beat on him as he begins to realize
it's lonely at the top and he glances once more at --

16 THE DESK

and the empty chair... where he still has not been
seated.

My novelization of the episodes has this scene as well. Click the link in my signature to download the free PDF file.
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Old January 12 2013, 01:54 PM   #40
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Re: "Best of both Worlds" - Special Bluray Release

It might have been filmed, but that scene was never in any version (first run, syndicated, home video) that I've ever seen.

The episode is better without it in my opinion. It just covers the same ground that the Riker/Guinan conversation did.
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Old January 12 2013, 02:13 PM   #41
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From what I understand, there were no deleted scenes recovered.
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Old January 12 2013, 02:54 PM   #42
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When was "Best Of Both Worlds" ever novelized? I know that "Descent" was novelized, and the odd scene or two has been novelized in other stories, but I've never seen a novelized version (unless you are referring to the script that was released in the Scriptbook or the TNG Companion CD-Rom).
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Old January 12 2013, 03:08 PM   #43
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When was "Best Of Both Worlds" ever novelized? I know that "Descent" was novelized, and the odd scene or two has been novelized in other stories, but I've never seen a novelized version (unless you are referring to the script that was released in the Scriptbook or the TNG Companion CD-Rom).
It never was...
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Old January 12 2013, 10:16 PM   #44
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I wrote the novelization of it myself, having been annoyed at the lack of an official novelization. It's available for free just bu clicking the link in my signature.
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Old January 12 2013, 10:26 PM   #45
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One thing that always annoyed me with BOBW was how Picard's borg appearance changed between part 1 and part 2. The eye piece is completely different. I liked the look from part 1 better. Going to be strange when they piece it together and suddenly he has a different piece of eye gear. lol
I always got the impression he was only half way through the assimilation process when he showed up on the viewscreen in part 1. They did show they were still working on him early on in part 2 after all.

I doubt I'd buy this unless there were some epic godly extras, audio commentary and what not.
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