RSS iconTwitter iconFacebook icon

The Trek BBS title image

The Trek BBS statistics

Threads: 140,957
Posts: 5,480,213
Members: 25,057
Currently online: 502
Newest member: Ghost_of_Bubba

TrekToday headlines

USS Enterprise Press-Out And Build Manual
By: T'Bonz on Nov 28

New QMx USS Reliant Model
By: T'Bonz on Nov 28

Star Trek Thirty-Five Years On 35MM: A Retrospective
By: T'Bonz on Nov 28

Trek Shirt And Hoodie
By: T'Bonz on Nov 27

A Klingon Christmas Carol’s Last Season
By: T'Bonz on Nov 27

Attack Wing Wave 10 Expansion Pack
By: T'Bonz on Nov 27

New Star Trek Funko Pop! Vinyl Figures
By: T'Bonz on Nov 26

QMx Mini Phaser Ornament
By: T'Bonz on Nov 26

Stewart as Neo-Nazi Skinhead
By: T'Bonz on Nov 26

Klingon Bloodwine To Debut
By: T'Bonz on Nov 25


Welcome! The Trek BBS is the number one place to chat about Star Trek with like-minded fans. Please login to see our full range of forums as well as the ability to send and receive private messages, track your favourite topics and of course join in the discussions.

If you are a new visitor, join us for free. If you are an existing member please login below. Note: for members who joined under our old messageboard system, please login with your display name not your login name.


Go Back   The Trek BBS > Entertainment & Interests > Science Fiction & Fantasy > Doctor Who

Doctor Who "Bigger on the inside..."

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old January 10 2013, 04:48 AM   #31
Brendan Moody
Vice Admiral
 
Brendan Moody's Avatar
 
Location: Maine
Re: The Five...err Four Doctors!

(Wasn't Jo Grant originally supposed to be with the 3rd Doctor as well?)
During the brief period between Frazer Hines having to back out and Tom Baker leaving the project, they were looking into the possibility of having Jo with the third Doctor, but that was only a couple of weeks, so I doubt anything was scripted.
__________________
Egg, I dreamed I was old.
Brendan Moody is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 10 2013, 05:00 AM   #32
diankra
Commodore
 
Location: UK
Re: The Five...err Four Doctors!

Plus Katy Manning was in Australia, so I doubt the checking out went much beyond:
"What about Jo?"
"Let's try Katy Manning's agent. Oh, he says she's in Australia."
"Ok, forget that..."
__________________
"Some days are better than others. They say that where I come from."
"Loudly, I imagine, on the day you left."
(Blake's 7 - Rumours of Death)
diankra is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 10 2013, 05:22 AM   #33
Brendan Moody
Vice Admiral
 
Brendan Moody's Avatar
 
Location: Maine
Re: The Five...err Four Doctors!

Actually, there was a hope that enough money was available to fly her from Australia, although I don't know how far that went before Tom backing out changed everything again. And looking back at the article on Shannon Patrick Sullivan's invaluable site, I see that there was a version of the script where the second Doctor was with the Brigadier and the fourth Doctor with Sarah; I don't know whether Jo was in that script or not.
__________________
Egg, I dreamed I was old.
Brendan Moody is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 10 2013, 06:01 AM   #34
diankra
Commodore
 
Location: UK
Re: The Five...err Four Doctors!

Certainly, Sarah was originally with 4, so I'd guess any serious thought of using Jo came in the brief gap between losing Jamie and losing Tom: the Brig moves from 3 to 2, leaving 3 in need of a companion until Sarah becomes available to pair with him.
__________________
"Some days are better than others. They say that where I come from."
"Loudly, I imagine, on the day you left."
(Blake's 7 - Rumours of Death)
diankra is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 10 2013, 06:05 AM   #35
Brendan Moody
Vice Admiral
 
Brendan Moody's Avatar
 
Location: Maine
Re: The Five...err Four Doctors!

Right; I'm saying I don't know whether, in that brief interval, Dicks would have re-scripted the third Doctor sequences to add Jo prior to getting confirmation that she would actually appear, or if he would simply have re-written the second Doctor sections to replace Jamie with the Brig and left the third Doctor/Brig material as a placeholder until things were settled.
__________________
Egg, I dreamed I was old.
Brendan Moody is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 10 2013, 06:08 AM   #36
diankra
Commodore
 
Location: UK
Re: The Five...err Four Doctors!

Gotya. From what I recall from putting the 5 Doctors InVision together there weren't any script pages or similar involving Jo... if I can find the right box I can double check sometime, as there's loads of stuff buried there!
__________________
"Some days are better than others. They say that where I come from."
"Loudly, I imagine, on the day you left."
(Blake's 7 - Rumours of Death)
diankra is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 10 2013, 04:35 PM   #37
Mr Awe
Rear Admiral
 
Re: The Five...err Four Doctors!

The Borgified Corpse wrote: View Post
It certainly sounds interesting. I'd especially like to see how things would have turned out differently
I would too. Does anyone know whether the previous versions of the script still exist? Is there a chance we'd ever be able to read them, or are they lost to time?

Mr Awe
Mr Awe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 10 2013, 04:55 PM   #38
diankra
Commodore
 
Location: UK
Re: The Five...err Four Doctors!

I don't think Terrance Dicks keeps much old paperwork (not enough room for it and a family back in the old days), so only if they're at the BBC written archives.
They certainly weren't at the BBC Script Unit or they'd have been found when it shut down in 1991 (or were destroyed when it was - only one final copy of each script was saved for archiving)... during that last week, you couldn't move for cult TV fans taking their last chance to raid every filing cabinet in search of anything they could find. That's when I found the first reference to the Six Doctors working title and - foolishly - assumed it was just a typo).
__________________
"Some days are better than others. They say that where I come from."
"Loudly, I imagine, on the day you left."
(Blake's 7 - Rumours of Death)
diankra is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 10 2013, 05:11 PM   #39
Mr Awe
Rear Admiral
 
Re: The Five...err Four Doctors!

^^ Thanks for the info. I guess we can only hope!
Mr Awe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 12 2013, 07:55 AM   #40
gastrof
Rear Admiral
 
gastrof's Avatar
 
Location: New Vulcan
Re: The Five...err Four Doctors!

Mr Awe wrote: View Post
The Borgified Corpse wrote: View Post
It certainly sounds interesting. I'd especially like to see how things would have turned out differently
I would too. Does anyone know whether the previous versions of the script still exist? Is there a chance we'd ever be able to read them, or are they lost to time?

Mr Awe
NOTHING is ever lost to time...

Except Gallifrey. (Which is where the scripts were probably stored.)
__________________
Trek:
Onscreen is canon, books are interesting. Movies change canon, scissors wrap paper...or...something.
gastrof is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 12 2013, 07:57 AM   #41
gastrof
Rear Admiral
 
gastrof's Avatar
 
Location: New Vulcan
Re: The Five...err Four Doctors!

diankra wrote: View Post
...That's when I found the first reference to the Six Doctors working title and - foolishly - assumed it was just a typo).
Oh please...

Have pity on an American Whovian and tell me...

Once C. Baker was on board, had they planned to do it AGAIN?
__________________
Trek:
Onscreen is canon, books are interesting. Movies change canon, scissors wrap paper...or...something.
gastrof is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 12 2013, 07:59 AM   #42
Ar-Pharazon
Rear Admiral
 
Ar-Pharazon's Avatar
 
Re: The Five...err Four Doctors!

gastrof wrote: View Post
Mr Awe wrote: View Post
The Borgified Corpse wrote: View Post
It certainly sounds interesting. I'd especially like to see how things would have turned out differently
I would too. Does anyone know whether the previous versions of the script still exist? Is there a chance we'd ever be able to read them, or are they lost to time?

Mr Awe
NOTHING is ever lost to time...

Except Gallifrey. (Which is where the scripts were probably stored.)
And the missing video tapes maybe?
__________________
Rimmer, on what period of history to live in-
“Well, It’d be the 19th century for me, one of Napoleon’s marshals.
The chance to march across Europe with the greatest general of all time and kill Belgians” - (White Hole).
Ar-Pharazon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 12 2013, 11:49 AM   #43
VDCNI
Captain
 
Location: London UK
Re: The Five...err Four Doctors!

gastrof wrote: View Post
diankra wrote: View Post
...That's when I found the first reference to the Six Doctors working title and - foolishly - assumed it was just a typo).
Oh please...

Have pity on an American Whovian and tell me...

Once C. Baker was on board, had they planned to do it AGAIN?
No it is to do with Robert Holmes's original story which had the First Doctor being replaced by a robot duplicate.
VDCNI is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 20 2013, 03:58 AM   #44
Anji
Rear Admiral
 
Anji's Avatar
 
Location: Assisting in the birth of baby Horta on Janus VI
View Anji's Twitter Profile
Re: The Five...err Four Doctors!

Excepts from the original version of "The Five Doctors" exist in a copy of a booklet published in honor of the anniversary called, "The Making of the Five Doctors" and it was put out by either the BBC or the Dr. Who Fan Club of America...I don't remember which. The artwork on the cover is awesome and the title of the booklet is embossed in silver.

I've still got a copy of it somewhere....
__________________
"You may be wrong, but you may be right." - Billy Joel
Anji is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 24 2013, 03:35 AM   #45
The Borgified Corpse
Admiral
 
The Borgified Corpse's Avatar
 
Location: Ouch! Forgotten already? You were just down there 20 minutes ago.
Re: The Five...err Four Doctors!

VDCNI wrote: View Post
gastrof wrote: View Post
diankra wrote: View Post
...That's when I found the first reference to the Six Doctors working title and - foolishly - assumed it was just a typo).
Oh please...

Have pity on an American Whovian and tell me...

Once C. Baker was on board, had they planned to do it AGAIN?
No it is to do with Robert Holmes's original story which had the First Doctor being replaced by a robot duplicate.
And in keeping with the tradition of robot duplicates of the 1st Doctor, this one was distinguishable because he:
1. Actually remembered his lines.
2. Moved his lips completely independently of any words coming out.
3. Didn't look a thing like the Doctor!!!!!
__________________
Kegg: "You're a Trekkie. The capacity to quibble over the minutiae of space opera films is your birthright."
The Borgified Corpse is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 10:50 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
FireFox 2+ or Internet Explorer 7+ highly recommended.