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Old January 11 2013, 11:58 AM   #16
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Re: Why wasn't Naomi more socially maladjusted?

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And when she was a teenager and started dating, I think she'd insist on everything being her way, and at the slightest hint of resistance she'd start crying and interpret the situation in terms of "Why are YOU doing this to ME?" Then when they dumped her she would come to the conclusion "He was just a horrible person."
OH nonsense. Crying?!

At the "slightest hint of resistance" she would shove that boy back into the couch and tell him Resistance is Futile! You're adaption's bitch and you better get used to it! And then he would cower and probably flee and her little forehead spines would pulse with rage.
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Old January 11 2013, 12:03 PM   #17
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Re: Why wasn't Naomi more socially maladjusted?

She's an alien.

Maybe she's got no oestrogen?

But Naomi buddied with the Borg kids fine.

Even the other blonde female.

Blonde females at their height are like rats in a cage fighting over cheese.

Or did Janeway eject all those other children for all their own safety because she was stuck with her own bad seed?
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Old January 11 2013, 12:17 PM   #18
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Re: Why wasn't Naomi more socially maladjusted?

Well solitude has a major impact of people especially children,but with the Holodeck i don't think it is a problem,in addition the military concept of Starfleet will inhibit the maladjusted child,it is seen that in many families with fathers in the military children grow either excessively organized and socially aware or have major ADD.

Also a fact to consider that Naomi has never seen any other children,she has no emotional needs to be with any,the concept of ''reinforcement'' applies,in this case a neutral reinforcement.(excluding the Holodeck)

Psychologically speaking it hard to know if Naomi has issues at that time in her life,we usually observe issues like this starting form the age of 13+.
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Old January 11 2013, 12:39 PM   #19
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Re: Why wasn't Naomi more socially maladjusted?

She was 5, played by a 12 year old when the show finished.
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Old January 11 2013, 11:09 PM   #20
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Re: Why wasn't Naomi more socially maladjusted?

She'll come out the other end intolerant of unambitious, time wasting peers. Her curiosity of what she missed out on will be quickly satisfied and she will deem her own childhood extraordinary. I think she's quite self contained and naturally given to a life of the intellect and I can't see that she would turn out dramatically different had she been raised on earth. I don't think it's completely applicable to the military as Voyager is a tight knit community rather than a shifting transient population.

She made friends with the Borg children fine.. I think once on Earth she will naturally seek out peers who have lived different sorts of lives. It will be hard for her to relate to those who have never been in space. She's going to be looking for people like Jake and Nog to hang out with and people like Icheb to be friends with.
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Old January 12 2013, 12:04 AM   #21
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Re: Why wasn't Naomi more socially maladjusted?

Someone put a baby in her.

That's pretty social.
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Old January 12 2013, 12:08 AM   #22
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Re: Why wasn't Naomi more socially maladjusted?

Who would she date again?

Harry Kim? Vorik? Chell? .... Neelix?
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Old January 12 2013, 12:09 AM   #23
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Re: Why wasn't Naomi more socially maladjusted?

Icheb. She is already a Borg groupie.
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Old January 12 2013, 12:11 AM   #24
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Icheb. She is already a Borg groupie.
Icheb made Chakotay look interesting...
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Old January 12 2013, 12:13 AM   #25
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Re: Why wasn't Naomi more socially maladjusted?

You don't think Icheb is her type? I do.
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Old January 12 2013, 12:16 AM   #26
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When I imagine how a child with a childhood like Naomi might turn out, I imagine somebody who's good at charming and manipulating adults, but has boundaries issues, a sense of entitlement, a need to be the center of attention, and difficulty relating to other children her age.

They could have done episodes that show this and still keep her likable without taking it to extremes. Were the writers being forced to just keep her this cute likable kid or did they just never consider the realistic consequences of growing up isolated from other children?
24th century ritalin is the answer.
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Old January 12 2013, 12:32 AM   #27
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You don't think Icheb is her type? I do.
I dunno, Naomi seems quite quirky and outgoing. Icheb really seems closed in and completely lacking in a sense of humor.

Always figured Icheb would be a good fit for the "my height is insufficient" girl.. what was her name? Azati? Something like that.
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Old January 12 2013, 12:41 AM   #28
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You don't think Icheb is her type? I do.
They so hooked up in Shattered.

It was end of the world.

Chakotay was going to kill them.

Erased from existence.

And they didn't at least trade hand jobs before time caught up with them?

It's really amazing that Seska was the only person who didn't want to be executed by the Indian, and it wasn't because she was trying to save her baby?

Actually why didn't Chakotay gut her and take the kid?

At that point in time, before our favourite Spoonhead found out Kullah was the father, who was more than willing to raise Chakotays child as his own, even if he wanted to make a rug out of Chuckles backfat and love handles... But as long as they believed that child was Chakotays, then that child was his and he should have rescued it; even if he knew it wasn't because at the exact point in time, the temporally native Chakotay had committed to raising his son in some manner, and just because it was really Kullah's kid, that only makes Chakotay hypocritical to not raise another man's son who would raise his.

Meanwhile if Chakotay had brought back Old Icheb and Old Naomi...Young Icheb is probably still old enough to date her. Because Young Icheb might not think it efficent to wait for his Naomi to grow up when there's a delightfully servicable version ready and waiting if he can just convince her to be willing...

Unless the time cops don't show up and integrate the Ichebs and Naomis?
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Old January 12 2013, 01:28 AM   #29
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Re: Why wasn't Naomi more socially maladjusted?

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You don't think Icheb is her type? I do.
I dunno, Naomi seems quite quirky and outgoing. Icheb really seems closed in and completely lacking in a sense of humor.
I never got that impression of Icheb from "Imperfection" or "Q2".
Both eps. IMO showed he was open and perceptive of others feelings and had sense of humor.
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Old January 12 2013, 01:57 AM   #30
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Re: Why wasn't Naomi more socially maladjusted?

He was totally going to seal the deal with B'Elanna.

From his perspective he was bullied into taking Tom's wife.

Taker her away and then just take her.
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