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Trek Literature "...Good words. That's where ideas begin."

View Poll Results: Rate 2012 in Trek lit
Outstanding 11 22.92%
Above average 30 62.50%
Average 5 10.42%
Below average 1 2.08%
Poor 1 2.08%
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Old January 11 2013, 04:12 AM   #31
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Re: Rate 2012 in Trek lit

That's pretty much how I approach it. I just think of each option as a star rating from * - *****.
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Old January 11 2013, 08:47 PM   #32
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I'm going to propose the British conversational rating system;

1. Not bad
2. Not great
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Old January 11 2013, 11:07 PM   #33
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Laughing very much.
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Old January 11 2013, 11:28 PM   #34
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Lee Son of Pete wrote: View Post
I'm going to propose the British conversational rating system;

1. Not bad
2. Not great
Works for me.
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Old January 12 2013, 12:17 AM   #35
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Lee Son of Pete wrote: View Post
I'm going to propose the British conversational rating system;

1. Not bad
2. Not great
You Northerners always were prone to going to extremes.

You can replace all such hyperbole with a straightforward 'it's alright !'

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Old January 12 2013, 12:57 AM   #36
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Relayer1 wrote: View Post
Lee Son of Pete wrote: View Post
I'm going to propose the British conversational rating system;

1. Not bad
2. Not great
You Northerners always were prone to going to extremes.

You can replace all such hyperbole with a straightforward 'it's alright !'

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Old January 12 2013, 02:17 PM   #37
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Relayer1 wrote: View Post
Lee Son of Pete wrote: View Post
I'm going to propose the British conversational rating system;

1. Not bad
2. Not great
You Northerners always were prone to going to extremes.

You can replace all such hyperbole with a straightforward 'it's alright !'

Or 'sorted our kid'
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Old January 12 2013, 02:52 PM   #38
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Or 'sorted our kid'
I must've lived in the States for too long, 'cause that's a new one on me...
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Old January 12 2013, 03:00 PM   #39
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Sound as a pound.

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Old January 12 2013, 03:45 PM   #40
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It ay alf bad...
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Old January 12 2013, 04:03 PM   #41
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How about some truly northern assessment, never afraid of putting an opinion out there?

(i) Total belter
(ii) Awrite
(iii) Shite (or mince)
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Old January 12 2013, 04:16 PM   #42
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Or Black Country - from good to bad...

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Old January 12 2013, 05:36 PM   #43
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mint innit
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Old January 12 2013, 08:44 PM   #44
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Similar to what Hugh Cambridge suggested, I think simply replacing the phrase "above average" with "very good" would be sufficient and wouldn't really mess up Sho's system significantly.

Christopher wrote: View Post
Maybe people shouldn't worry so much about the names and just treat it as a 1- to 5-star rating system, or an A-B-C-D-F grading scale. Personally I don't see why "above average" and "very good" can't be synonymous or at least overlapping.
I think they do overlap, but the former sounds a bit like damnation with faint praise. And I think, for the most part, people do treat them like a five-star system, but often qualify their four-star rating as not intended to be a "diss."

As for the OP's question, I had to go back and review what was released here:
  • The Rings of Time
  • That Which Divides
  • Destiny omnibus
  • Storming Heaven
  • Forgotten History
  • Plagues of Night
  • Raise the Dawn
  • The Assassination Game
  • Fallen Gods
  • The Eternal Tide
  • Brinkmanship
  • In Tempest's Wake
  • The Persistance of Memory
  • Silent Weapons
  • The Body Electric
  • Federation: The First 150 Years
  • 12 IDW Star Trek Ongoing comics (1 per month)

I haven't read all of these, but I've read many, and, while there are indeed a couple that fall flat, there are many more that are great and a few that are among my favorite works of TrekLit yet. So I've voted outstanding/five-stars/A/wicked pissah.
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Old January 13 2013, 02:16 AM   #45
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There really should have been at least one more option between above average and outstanding, like "Very good" or something like that. There's just a too large gap between those two options IMO.

But I've said that way before Sho started his rating site, and even then I was either ignored or got the "We have always done it this way" routine without a real discussion, so I guess Sho's site is pretty much just the new go-to excuse for something that wouldn't have been changed anyway.

Note: I accept the reasoning now with Sho's site, I just think the system should have been thought through better from the beginning.
I do agree and I think it should have been better thought out. A novel can be better then above average yet not as good as outstanding. That's where the problem lies. Overall, 2012 was very good with some bumps along the way. But overall, better above average and not as good as above average. The following is what I propose we use.

6. Outstanding
5. Very Good
4. Above Average
3. Average
2. Below Average
1. Poor

Christopher wrote: View Post
Maybe people shouldn't worry so much about the names and just treat it as a 1- to 5-star rating system, or an A-B-C-D-F grading scale. Personally I don't see why "above average" and "very good" can't be synonymous or at least overlapping.
Because (IMHO)...

Average = OK
Above Average - Good
Outstanding = Nearly Perfect

There's nothing between Good and Nearly Perfect. It's a big gap.
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