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Old January 7 2013, 06:02 PM   #46
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Still don't get all the hate for this episode and Janice's sentiments in that. Janice is batshit crazy, and she sees herself and her career as an utter failure.
It doesn't work because Janice is human, so having her be batsh** crazy doesn't fit in with Gene Roddenberry's vision of a perfect, utopian future for humanity where all our problems have been solved. After all, this is one of many women who Kirk has bedded over the years, so there had to be 'something' appealing.

And how can she consider herself a failure when she finds an alien device that can cause two people to swap bodies? I'd think that would be a pretty significant find in any book.

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I don't take it as a factual statement about 23rd century attitudes concerning women.
And the evidence to back that up is.... no female captain in Star Trek until Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home almost two decades later. If gender is not an issue, why the gender swap? If Janice is so freaking crazy, why is that made a bigger issue than simply brushing off the sexism away as nothing?
Well, there is the Romulan commander. And she set equal rights back about 1,000 years.
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Old January 7 2013, 06:30 PM   #47
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And the evidence to back that up is.... no female captain in Star Trek until Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home almost two decades later. If gender is not an issue, why the gender swap? If Janice is so freaking crazy, why is that made a bigger issue than simply brushing off the sexism away as nothing?
How about Number One from The Cage? Granted that she wasn't a captain in the episode, but she was Pike's first officer and the episode made it quite clear (to me, at least), that she had the trust and respect of the crew in Pike's absence and seemed to be used to being in a leadership position. Even though it was never shown, I think we can be fairly certain that she moved up to her own command at some point before WNMHGB.
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Old January 8 2013, 12:16 AM   #48
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It doesn't work because Janice is human, so having her be batsh** crazy doesn't fit in with Gene Roddenberry's vision of a perfect, utopian future for humanity where all our problems have been solved.
You're confusing TOS with the spinoffs. It wasn't until after TOS that Roddenberry was infected with that particular foolishness. The characters in TOS were wonderfully flawed and real.
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Old January 8 2013, 02:31 AM   #49
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Roddenberry had nothing to do with the final season of TOS, remember? This was all Fred Freberger's garbage and anyone who's seen SPACE:1999 can recognize his "brand of it."
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Old January 8 2013, 05:15 AM   #50
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Roddenberry had nothing to do with the final season of TOS, remember? This was all Fred Freberger's garbage and anyone who's seen SPACE:1999 can recognize his "brand of it."
It's from a story outline written by Roddenberry.
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Old January 8 2013, 01:34 PM   #51
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When Spock mentions "hot pursuit" in regards to chasing the Gorn in Arena. Cracks me up everytime!
"Hot pursuit" (at least in the 21st century) is a legal term to indicate a status in which some police actions may be lawful that wouldn't be otherwise, such as pursuit outside an officer's jurisdiction. So it's logical that Spock would want to document that status in the Captain's Log.

These lines come to my mind at the moment:

"Deflectors, full intensiTY!" (just the intonation)

"Antibodies.... An-tee-bah-deez!"

"Kill, kill, kill you all.... Die, die, die, everybody dah-hah-hie..."

"A storehouse for our muscular friends."

"I should have never reconnected his mouth."

And just about any of Spock's lines in "That Which Survives." Struck entirely the wrong tone.
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Old January 8 2013, 07:51 PM   #52
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When Spock mentions "hot pursuit" in regards to chasing the Gorn in Arena. Cracks me up everytime!
"Hot pursuit" (at least in the 21st century) is a legal term to indicate a status in which some police actions may be lawful that wouldn't be otherwise, such as pursuit outside an officer's jurisdiction. So it's logical that Spock would want to document that status in the Captain's Log.

These lines come to my mind at the moment:



And just about any of Spock's lines in "That Which Survives." Struck entirely the wrong tone.
Maybe, I'd have to watch it again...but the look on his face when Scotty says, "It's stuck!". Pure, marvelous acting. His face falls just the right amount for a Vulcan.
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Old January 8 2013, 08:39 PM   #53
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Roddenberry had nothing to do with the final season of TOS, remember? This was all Fred Freberger's garbage and anyone who's seen SPACE:1999 can recognize his "brand of it."
It's not entirely correct to say Roddenberry had nothing to do with any third-season script. He was involved in early decisions regarding script assignments and discussions about first drafts, at least for the first eight or nine scripts of the season. I personally saw memos to and from Roddenberry about "The Empath" and "Is There in Truth No Beauty?" in the archive of George Duning's papers at the USC library when I visited there in 1985.

This is not to say he approved any of the episodes in final, produced form. But he was involved in some of them before he left.
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Old January 8 2013, 09:03 PM   #54
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When Spock mentions "hot pursuit" in regards to chasing the Gorn in Arena. Cracks me up everytime!
"Hot pursuit" (at least in the 21st century) is a legal term to indicate a status in which some police actions may be lawful that wouldn't be otherwise, such as pursuit outside an officer's jurisdiction. So it's logical that Spock would want to document that status in the Captain's Log.
Correction: I just watched it and it was Kirk who made the log entry, so my reasoning there doesn't entirely hold up.
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Old January 10 2013, 05:06 PM   #55
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[/QUOTE]True Story: I've always wanted to tell Gorshin how much I enjoyed his performance in LTBYLB...I was waiting on a guy once, and this woman who worked with me was telling me how familiar he looked. I was like, "enh."

Then after he left, she figured out it was Gorshin...not too long after he died. (sigh)[/QUOTE]

Not too long after he died? And yet he still found the energy to get up and walk around. What a trooper!
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Old January 11 2013, 04:17 AM   #56
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^^ See post #22.
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Old January 11 2013, 08:55 PM   #57
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Easily:

Gorn Captain: 'Ssssss heh heh heh heh sssssssssss"
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Old January 11 2013, 10:05 PM   #58
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Easily:

Gorn Captain: 'Ssssss heh heh heh heh sssssssssss"
Translation: "It's bright here! I wish I could blink!"
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Old January 12 2013, 11:46 AM   #59
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The ... impostor had some ... interesting qualities, wouldn't you say, Yeoman?- Spock, to Rand in 'The Enemy Within'- There just is no way to make that comment come out remotely sane, much less good. Rand should have hauled off and belted him.

Oh yes, and the little smirk just capped it off. I'm going through the series with my girlfriend, who has never seen the show before, and she was appalled.
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Old January 17 2013, 10:30 AM   #60
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Easily:

Gorn Captain: 'Ssssss heh heh heh heh sssssssssss"
Translation: "It's bright here! I wish I could blink!"
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