Getting into Star Trek, what should I watch!?? - Page 4

jpch · January 6 2013, 05:52 PM

Watch Voyager then DS9 then TNG its impossible not to love them even if some episodes were horrible :P

lurok · January 7 2013, 08:50 PM

I've never been able to get anyone into Trek, though know people who love Galaxy Quest

. nuBSG was no problem.

Nibbz wrote:

Sisko in particular is difficult to listen to...

Brooks is pretty stiff in early seasons and loosens up to greater effect later. But he's a bit Marmite as an actor. I just happen to love his cadences.

StarMan · January 7 2013, 11:24 PM

Well, good on you for making a foray into Trekdom! There is quite a bit to choose from. I would suggest maybe sticking with just TOS and TNG for now. I don't feel tackling all 5 series simultaneously will be the best experience for you.

Leroy · January 8 2013, 12:13 AM

I'll tell you what NOT to do is have a closed mind when it comes to stuff outside of TOS.

TNG, DS9, VOY, and ENT all take a couple of seasons to get good with a few outstanding to ok episodes in the first couple of seasons for the most part. Swearing off them because they might not have Kirk and Spock or an Enterprise would be a mistake since this franchise is so huge.

TOS isn't perfect either despite what purists would have you believe (I guess they don't remember the third season with such episodes as 'And the Children Shall Lead' and 'Spock's Brain') not every episode is 'Balance of Terror' and 'City on the Edge of Forever'.

Even the much maligned VOY and ENT have their moments and it's ironic that ENT is the only show still intact in the new timeline.

Nibbz wrote:

Any tips to get me into TNG and DS9? I wanna enjoy DS9 in particular as I've heard as a continuing series, its the best Star Trek has to offer.

For TNG watch 'The Measure of a Man', 'Q Who', and the Best of Both Worlds two parter, 'The Inner Light' is also an excellent character piece.

For DS9 it's harder since that show builds on it's characters so when the good stuff happens it's much more meaningful. Some great episodes without too many spoilers are 'Duet', 'The Jem'Hadar', 'Improbable Cause', 'The Die is Cast' and 'The Visitor' (DS9's Inner Light). That should get you started with DS9, skip 'Move Along Home' until you have watched the whole series.

Anji · January 8 2013, 01:38 AM

Start from the very beginning: TOS and work your way to the present. But when you watch the movies make sure you do it with friends. It's a lot more fun that way.

Star Wolf · January 9 2013, 10:20 PM

lurok wrote:

Nibbz wrote:

Sisko in particular is difficult to listen to...

Brooks is pretty stiff in early seasons and loosens up to greater effect later. But he's a bit Marmite as an actor. I just happen to love his cadences.

I think he was telling himself you can't do Hawk. But Hawk and late series Sisko is what Brooks does best. It would be like hiring Samual Jackson today and he decides to hold back.

Dale Sams · January 9 2013, 10:37 PM

Star Wolf wrote:

lurok wrote:

Nibbz wrote:

Sisko in particular is difficult to listen to...

Brooks is pretty stiff in early seasons and loosens up to greater effect later. But he's a bit Marmite as an actor. I just happen to love his cadences.

I think he was telling himself you can't do Hawk. But Hawk and late series Sisko is what Brooks does best. It would be like hiring Samual Jackson today and he decides to hold back.

ughhh...that "ooooeeeeeeeee!" he does in the pilot.

BillJ · January 9 2013, 10:37 PM

Leroy wrote:

TOS isn't perfect either despite what purists would have you believe (I guess they don't remember the third season with such episodes as 'And the Children Shall Lead' and 'Spock's Brain') not every episode is 'Balance of Terror' and 'City on the Edge of Forever'.

Can you point to anyone in this thread that has said anything remotely like what your stating above?

I love TOS the most and I always point out the high points of the other series as well.

MacLeod · January 10 2013, 12:11 AM

TOS is a bit of an inverse of the later shows, while the later shows took a couple of season to hit their stride TOS does it more or less straight out of the boook. WIth many of the best episodes being in S1-2 S3 suffered a decline in qaulity.

Leroy · January 11 2013, 02:31 PM

BillJ wrote:

Can you point to anyone in this thread that has said anything remotely like what your stating above?

I love TOS the most and I always point out the high points of the other series as well.

It's not anything anyone has said in this thread, it's just I've encountered an attitude before that anything TOS is gold and anything other than TOS is junk and not worth watching.

BillJ · January 11 2013, 02:42 PM

Leroy wrote:

BillJ wrote:

Can you point to anyone in this thread that has said anything remotely like what your stating above?

I love TOS the most and I always point out the high points of the other series as well.

It's not anything anyone has said in this thread, it's just I've encountered an attitude before that anything TOS is gold and anything other than TOS is junk and not worth watching.

And you also see that attitude from fans of Modern Trek as well. TOS is junk and Modern Trek is gold.

Leroy · January 11 2013, 03:31 PM

BillJ wrote:

And you also see that attitude from fans of Modern Trek as well. TOS is junk and Modern Trek is gold.

That's very true, maybe I notice it more the other way around because TOS is more famous and iconic than the other shows.

Garrovick · January 11 2013, 04:15 PM

Greg Cox wrote:

Okay, for TOS, the best eps include:

"Errand of Mercy" (first appearance of the Klingons)
"Balance of Terror" (enter the Romulans)
"Journey to Babel"
"Amok Time"
"Devil in the Dark"
"Mirror, Mirror" (first appearance of Mirror Universe)
"City on the Edge of Forever"
"The Trouble with Tribbles"
"The Doomsday Machine"
"Arena"

I'll let somebody else tackle the latter-day series.

Apologies if someone else mentioned these and I missed it, but I'd add "The Enemy Within", "The Galileo Seven", "The Tholian Web" and "The Naked Time" to this list as well.

Obiwansolo18 · January 13 2013, 01:23 PM

Speaking from experience I think tng is easiest to get into. Since Patrick Stewart was prof x, he really was the difference maker I found. I think any can be good as long as you connect with characters or story in some way.

Gary7 · January 13 2013, 08:38 PM

I agree with Anji. I think it's best to start with TOS, so that you get the "real" back story on the whole franchise. You don't have to watch the whole thing. Maybe just the first 2 seasons, even some choice episodes from there. Next, go to TNG then DS9. I really feel like the progression of the franchise helps build a true appreciation for it.

January 6 2013, 05:52 PM	#46
jpch Commander Location: Delta Quadrant Borg Queen appartement 8472	Re: Getting into Star Trek, what should I watch!?? Watch Voyager then DS9 then TNG its impossible not to love them even if some episodes were horrible :P

January 7 2013, 11:24 PM	#48
StarMan Vice Admiral Location: New Zealand.	Re: Getting into Star Trek, what should I watch!?? Well, good on you for making a foray into Trekdom! There is quite a bit to choose from. I would suggest maybe sticking with just TOS and TNG for now. I don't feel tackling all 5 series simultaneously will be the best experience for you. __________________ So... Shall we begin?

January 8 2013, 01:38 AM	#50
Anji Rear Admiral Location: Assisting in the birth of baby Horta on Janus VI	Re: Getting into Star Trek, what should I watch!?? Start from the very beginning: TOS and work your way to the present. But when you watch the movies make sure you do it with friends. It's a lot more fun that way. __________________ "You may be wrong, but you may be right." - Billy Joel

January 10 2013, 12:11 AM	#54
MacLeod Vice Admiral Location: Great Britain	Re: Getting into Star Trek, what should I watch!?? TOS is a bit of an inverse of the later shows, while the later shows took a couple of season to hit their stride TOS does it more or less straight out of the boook. WIth many of the best episodes being in S1-2 S3 suffered a decline in qaulity. __________________ On the continent of wild endeavour in the mountains of solace and solitude there stood the citadel of the time lords, the oldest and most mighty race in the universe looking down on the galaxies below sworn never to interfere only to watch.

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Gary7 Rear Admiral Location: Near Manhattan ··· in an alternate reality	Re: Getting into Star Trek, what should I watch!?? I agree with Anji. I think it's best to start with TOS, so that you get the "real" back story on the whole franchise. You don't have to watch the whole thing. Maybe just the first 2 seasons, even some choice episodes from there. Next, go to TNG then DS9. I really feel like the progression of the franchise helps build a true appreciation for it. __________________ Remembering Ensign Mallory.