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Old January 10 2013, 12:26 AM   #16
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Re: "Best of both Worlds" - Special Bluray Release

Well, let's just hope that this release is made world wide and not just in Australia.
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Old January 10 2013, 10:02 AM   #17
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If they're smart, they'll include an isolated score (with commentary in between cues by Ron Jones). I don't think they'll be smart.
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Old January 10 2013, 11:41 AM   #18
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A few points of clarification:

* The release is worldwide, not just Australia
* The seasons sets will still be definitive, this release is a great intro or standalone for those who don't want or can't afford the season sets
* Bonus features will be exclusive to the disc at the time of release (although I expect them to be included with Season 4)
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Old January 10 2013, 08:35 PM   #19
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* Bonus features will be exclusive to the disc at the time of release (although I expect them to be included with Season 4)
Can you get CBS to confirm or deny this? There's no point in me shelling out the cash for a duplicate release if I don't have to. Also how will this relate to commentaries? Will the commentary released on the feature length version be the same as the one on part I and II separately (just split up)?
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Old January 10 2013, 09:28 PM   #20
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I think it would be smart to put The Best of Both Worlds SE on DVD as well. Might get some people to convert to Blu-ray when they see all the work that was done on the series.
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Old January 10 2013, 10:03 PM   #21
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I used to have the double-length feature on VHS back in the day, and I used to watch it quite often because they're brilliant episodes. I had this tape before I saw part one by itself, and remember being quite shocked at the amazing cliffhanger that i missed out on. I may be remembering wrong, but I think the musical cue at the end of part one is a bit truncated in the edited-together version. There was definitely no cut to black.

I do remember either Dr. Crusher's wig changed, or the lighting did, between dramatic moments. Must have been the shock.
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Old January 10 2013, 11:06 PM   #22
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I used to have the double-length feature on VHS back in the day, and I used to watch it quite often because they're brilliant episodes. I had this tape before I saw part one by itself, and remember being quite shocked at the amazing cliffhanger that i missed out on. I may be remembering wrong, but I think the musical cue at the end of part one is a bit truncated in the edited-together version. There was definitely no cut to black.
While I haven't seen this UK version with the build-up to the firing of the deflector weapon omitted (just read the description on Memory Alpha), I hope they don't use it as a guide for this standalone Blu-ray.

When I made my feature-length version from the DVDs about ten years ago, I preserved the cut to black and then fade up into Part II. All I had to do was make the cut in Part I just after Troi's close-up and before the final dolly move in on Riker. Then, I edited Part II in during the recap right at that same moment, at the start of Riker's shot. It was a seamless cut, both picture and audio. I just silenced the center track on the, "And now the conclusion..." So there's a brief, music-only cut to black and fade up into Part II (and, of course, I removed the main title sequence from Part II).

What I'm hoping for is something almost exactly like what I did -- with the added benefit of HD, 7.1 lossless audio and no credits over Act I of Part II. That would be just fantastic.
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I've only skimmed the thread so maybe this question has been answered, but if they are making it a movie, how will they include the very end score of part 1. One of the reasons why that cliffhanger works so well is after you get "Mr. Worf, Fire", it cuts to To be Continued and you get that famous score. With the movie, it seemed like that would be lost.
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Old January 10 2013, 11:49 PM   #24
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I've only skimmed the thread so maybe this question has been answered, but if they are making it a movie, how will they include the very end score of part 1. One of the reasons why that cliffhanger works so well is after you get "Mr. Worf, Fire", it cuts to To be Continued and you get that famous score. With the movie, it seemed like that would be lost.
Read the 5 or so posts right above yours
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Old January 10 2013, 11:51 PM   #25
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I've only skimmed the thread so maybe this question has been answered, but if they are making it a movie, how will they include the very end score of part 1. One of the reasons why that cliffhanger works so well is after you get "Mr. Worf, Fire", it cuts to To be Continued and you get that famous score. With the movie, it seemed like that would be lost.
The season 3 set will have the unedited episode for those that prefer that version!
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I've only skimmed the thread so maybe this question has been answered, but if they are making it a movie, how will they include the very end score of part 1. One of the reasons why that cliffhanger works so well is after you get "Mr. Worf, Fire", it cuts to To be Continued and you get that famous score. With the movie, it seemed like that would be lost.
Read the 5 or so posts right above yours
I did. Seems seamless enough, and could be interesting to own as a movie. Still, when I get to BOBW on the Season 3 Blu-Ray set, I might just go get the standard DVDs and watch Part II and Family. I always try to watch those three episodes together as they make up TNG's best trifecta of episodes in terms of a mini-story arc.
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Old January 11 2013, 12:11 AM   #27
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I've only skimmed the thread so maybe this question has been answered, but if they are making it a movie, how will they include the very end score of part 1. One of the reasons why that cliffhanger works so well is after you get "Mr. Worf, Fire", it cuts to To be Continued and you get that famous score. With the movie, it seemed like that would be lost.
Here's my version that I described above:

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I've only skimmed the thread so maybe this question has been answered, but if they are making it a movie, how will they include the very end score of part 1. One of the reasons why that cliffhanger works so well is after you get "Mr. Worf, Fire", it cuts to To be Continued and you get that famous score. With the movie, it seemed like that would be lost.
Here's my version that I described above:

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That's pretty good, even though you cut off most of the score.
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Old January 11 2013, 12:39 AM   #29
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That's pretty good, even though you cut off most of the score.
What you hear is the original musical score Jones wrote for the transition between the Part I recap and Part II, except without Majel Barett's voice over. That's really the only change I made.

It's true that it means abandoning Jones' Part I end music, but it's the cleanest, simplest way to join the two parts without losing any visual content.
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That's pretty good, even though you cut off most of the score.
What you hear is the original musical score Jones wrote for the transition between the Part I recap and Part II, except without Majel Barett's voice over. That's really the only change I made.

It's true that it means abandoning Jones' Part I end music, but it's the cleanest, simplest way to join the two parts without losing any visual content.
True, but you are still losing the "Auditory" content. Maybe there isn't a way to keep it in tact but still transition from one episode to the next.
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