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Old December 31 2012, 10:46 PM   #61
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^Legally? Where is CHRISTOPHER?!
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Old December 31 2012, 11:11 PM   #62
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I hope David Mack's book is about the Aventine
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Old January 1 2013, 12:34 AM   #63
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^I'd like Sisko and Dax to appear together; I don't think any book has shown them talking since Warpath.
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Old January 1 2013, 12:48 AM   #64
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I'd think that they are obligated TO include the Hobus Supernova as part of the deal with tie-ins is to adhere to on-screen cannon.
But is Bad Robot canon legally the same as Paramount/CBS canon?
Check the copyright page on the 2009 movie novelization or one of the IDW Abramsverse comics. They say they're copyrighted by CBS Studios Inc. and Paramount Pictures Corporation, not Bad Robot. Bad Robot is the production company, but they make it under license from the owners of the property, just like Filmation did with the animated series -- or, in a sense, like Pocket does with the novels and IDW does with the comics.

As I said, it's hypothetically possible that a tie-in publisher might not have the license to tell stories based on a given part of the canon; but even if that were the case, I think the publisher would still be constrained from contradicting any major element of the canon, even a part they couldn't specifically reference. For instance, IDW doesn't have a VGR license but I doubt they could claim that "Endgame" never happened.
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Old January 8 2013, 04:44 AM   #65
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TrekMovie has posted the working/placeholder titles and authors for the whole miniseries now (but only series information:

http://trekmovie.com/2012/12/24/2013...ovels-preview/

(Edited to reflect corrections)
Sep: DS9: Revelations and Dust -- David R. George III
Oct: The Crimson Shadow -- Una McCormack
Nov: A Ceremony of Losses -- David Mack
Dec: TTN: The Poisoned Chalice -- James Swallow
Jan: Peaceable Kingdoms -- Dayton Ward

Wait a minute, James is doing two of them? (And I thought the chalice from the palace had the brew that was true!)
I see DS9 and TTN in 2 books does that mean the rest are just Picard's Enterprise crew?
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Old January 8 2013, 05:23 AM   #66
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^No, I think they're a variety of things, not all of which conform to a single series.
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Old January 8 2013, 05:37 PM   #67
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^No, I think they're a variety of things, not all of which conform to a single series.
Thanks. So like with the original TP novels, we'll be able to discern which series they will be predominantly with.

Are the Aventine adventures considered part of DS9?
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Old January 8 2013, 05:53 PM   #68
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Are the Aventine adventures considered part of DS9?
There's no formal classification, but I see the Aventine more as a free-ranging "guest star" ship that generally appears in combination with ships and characters from other series. It was in Destiny along with the TNG and TTN casts, Zero Sum Game with DS9 characters, and Brinkmanship with the TNG cast. Even A Singular Destiny can be considered a crossover with the Bacco administration and Corps of Engineers, among other guests. There's never actually been an "Aventine novel" per se.

I guess you could say it's the ship/crew equivalent of a character like Gul Evek, who appeared in Maquis-related stories on TNG, DS9, and VGR, or Q, who appeared at least once on all three series and was recurring on two of them. Not series-specific, but a common element of the shared universe.
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Old January 8 2013, 11:13 PM   #69
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David Mack has shared some tidbits about his contribution on his blog:

http://www.davidmack.pro/blog/?p=4418
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Old January 8 2013, 11:17 PM   #70
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Okay... so book 1 is DS9, book 2 is TNG/Garak, book 3 is DS9/Aventine, book 4 is Titan, and book 5 is TNG. That's more series-specific than I thought. Although that may be an oversimplification in some cases.
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Old January 8 2013, 11:47 PM   #71
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David Mack has shared some tidbits about his contribution on his blog:

http://www.davidmack.pro/blog/?p=4418
I liked David Mack's handling of Bashir and Ezri in ZSG so I'm looking forward to seeing him write them again.
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Old January 9 2013, 12:04 AM   #72
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Okay... so book 1 is DS9, book 2 is TNG/Garak, book 3 is DS9/Aventine, book 4 is Titan, and book 5 is TNG. That's more series-specific than I thought.
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Old January 9 2013, 01:59 AM   #73
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Awesome, I was so excited for this series and now David Mack is doing DS9 and the Avetine. Great news. Can't wait for this series.
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Old January 11 2013, 05:32 PM   #74
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Awesome, I was so excited for this series and now David Mack is doing DS9 and the Avetine. Great news. Can't wait for this series.

Same here! I'm glad there is still some time before they come out, though, as that will allow me time to get caught up on my Typhon Pact and Cold Equations, plus I still need to read Fallen Gods.
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Old January 14 2013, 09:50 PM   #75
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Awesome, I was so excited for this series and now David Mack is doing DS9 and the Avetine. Great news. Can't wait for this series.

Same here! I'm glad there is still some time before they come out, though, as that will allow me time to get caught up on my Typhon Pact and Cold Equations, plus I still need to read Fallen Gods.
Same position I am in, I have 6 books left to read in Pact and Cold Equations, but will see if caught up by time The Fall comes out.
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