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Old December 25 2012, 08:36 PM   #61
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Re: The bird is out: ENTERPRISE on blu-ray

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The CBS Digital shots were great in 1080p. Even comparing he upressed Defiant from Enterprise to the Enterprise was no match. CBS hit the effects out of the ballpark, while Eden made them look like the effects were from a Nintendo 64 game.
I have the exact opposite impression. The work CBS Digital did on TOS-R looked cartoony and extremely over lit, minus the matte work which was excellent. The NX-01 felt like a tangible object for most of the series until the budget was slashed for season four.

Guess we will have to agree to disagree.
I have to agree with you. That's probably the #1 thing that prevents me from picking up the bluray set of TOS...
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I have to agree with you. That's probably the #1 thing that prevents me from picking up the bluray set of TOS...
I just turn the new effects off.
Yes, the seamless branching gives you the choice - don't deny yourself these terrific BD's.

Reference the TOS-R CG, it's a mixed bag - with some of the shots looking really good, but many turning out somewhat crappy. Personally, my estimate of the "Good to Bad" ratio would be around 60/40.
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Old December 27 2012, 01:52 AM   #62
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I have the exact opposite impression. The work CBS Digital did on TOS-R looked cartoony and extremely over lit, minus the matte work which was excellent. The NX-01 felt like a tangible object for most of the series until the budget was slashed for season four.
During the whole run the NX-01 felt like an intangible object that never held up to the physical models that were used in previous series. And that's where CBS really shone on TOS-R. The NCC-1701 looked like the physical NCC-1701.

As for Season 4 the Eden FX would've used the same CGI model of the NX that was used for Seasons 1-3.
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Old December 29 2012, 11:36 AM   #63
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I'm dismayed that this is coming out before DS9 or Voyager but I suppose ENT doesn't need as much remastering.
I don't think DS9 or VOY look particularly dated, and the former is a show that wasn't heavy on the special effects and battle scenes until the last season and a half of its run. The biggest thing to fix with these two shows is the ratio aspect and bringing it to widescreen.

Like others have pointed out, ENT was shot in HD from the get-go for this reason. That said, is there even enough of an audience to justify skipping ahead of the other two shows?
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Old December 29 2012, 11:54 AM   #64
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The biggest thing to fix with these two shows is the ratio aspect and bringing it to widescreen.
There's nothing to "fix". DS9 and VOY will be in 4x3, just like TOS and TNG.
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Old December 29 2012, 01:48 PM   #65
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I don't think DS9 or VOY look particularly dated, and the former is a show that wasn't heavy on the special effects and battle scenes until the last season and a half of its run.
DS9 was full of effects sequences right from the beginning.


Like others have pointed out, ENT was shot in HD from the get-go for this reason. That said, is there even enough of an audience to justify skipping ahead of the other two shows?
I'm pretty sure CBS wouldn't spend the money releasing it if they didn't think they'd recoup their investment and then some.
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Old December 31 2012, 09:59 PM   #66
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The biggest thing to fix with these two shows is the ratio aspect and bringing it to widescreen.
There's nothing to "fix". DS9 and VOY will be in 4x3, just like TOS and TNG.
I thought there was an interview with a director on DS9 that stated halfway through the series they started protected for widescreen while filming.
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Old January 8 2013, 05:36 AM   #67
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Official in march


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Old January 8 2013, 09:35 AM   #68
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Good thing they decided not to use any of those horrible covers that they had the fans voting on. Those stunk like elephant shit.
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Old January 8 2013, 11:55 AM   #69
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I agree. I think the cover they did come up with is a little bland, but I'll take it any day over those earlier proposals.

I loved Scott Bakula's little anecdote in that video. "He didn't know this at first, but as soon as he said 'It's a century before Captain Kirk,' I was in." I can understand his enthusiasm for the idea, I thought (and still think) a prequel series was the right way to go.
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Old January 8 2013, 12:29 PM   #70
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They've done a top-knotch job ensuring all the old DVD extras content has been transferred across - which is always great for a completist like me. Some of it, only appeared on Best Buy discs in Region 1 (exclusive to certain retailers), while finding their way onto the season sets proper here in Region 2.

Really looking forward to the new featurettes. If the TNG ones are anything to go by, there's a lot of frank discussion and non of the usual self congratulatory studio sales pitch, that holds everything in a positive light. That approach often touches on a nerve, but that's obviously more appealing this many years on, when Enterprise is widely known about as the least successful of the Treks... and I frequently watch documentaries where I'll disagree strongly with one interviewee's opinion and find myself nodding in support of another. It's all part and parcel of seeing a fun debate unfold.


Disc One:
  • Audio Commentary with co-creator/executive producer Brannon Braga, director James L. Conway, visual effects producer Dan Curry and cast members Connor Trinneer (Trip Tucker) and Dominic Keating (Malcolm Reed) on Broken BowNEW!
  • Audio Commentary with Brannon Braga and Rick Berman on Broken Bow
  • Text Commentary by Michael and Denise Okuda on Broken Bow
  • Deleted Scenes from Broken Bow (SD)
  • Deleted Scenes from Fight or Flight (SD)
  • In Conversation: Rick Berman and Brannon BragaNEW! (HD)
  • Archival Mission Log: Creating Enterprise (SD)
  • Archival Mission Log: O Captain! My Captain! A Profile of Scott Bakula (SD)
  • Archival Mission Log: NX-01 File 02 (SD)
  • Cast Introduction—NEW (SD)
  • Network Presentation—NEW (SD)
  • Syndication Presentation—NEW (SD)
Disc Two:
  • Deleted Scene from Unexpected (SD)
  • Text Commentary by Michael and Denise Okuda on The Andorian Incident
  • Archival Mission Log: Cast Impressions: Season 1 (SD)
  • Archival Mission Log: Enterprise Secrets (SD)
Disc Three:
  • Audio commentary with writer/story editor André Bormanis and visual effects producer Dan Curry on Silent EnemyNEW!
  • Deleted Scene from Sleeping Dogs (SD)
  • Archival Mission Log: Star Trek Time Travel: Temporal Cold Wars and Beyond (SD)
  • Archival Mission Log: Admiral Forrest Takes Center Stage (SD)
Disc Four:
  • Audio Commentary with writers/executive story editors Mike Sussman and Phyllis Strong on Shadows of P’JemNEW!
  • Audio Commentary with co-creator/executive producer Brannon Braga, director David Livingston and cast members Connor Trinneer (Trip Tucker) and Dominic Keating (Malcolm Reed) on Shuttlepod OneNEW!
  • Deleted Scene from Shuttlepod One (SD)
  • Archival Mission Log: Inside Shuttlepod One (SD)
  • Archival Mission Log: NX-01 File 01 (SD)
  • Archival Mission Log: NX-01 File 03 (SD)
Disc Five:
  • Deleted Scenes from Oasis (SD)
  • Deleted Scenes from Fallen Hero (SD)
  • Text Commentary by Michael and Denise Okuda on Vox Sola
  • Archival Mission Log: Enterprise Outtakes (SD)
  • On The SetNEW (SD)
Disc Six:
  • Deleted Scene from Two Days and Two Nights (SD)
  • Deleted Scenes from Shockwave, Part 1 (SD)
  • Documentary: To Boldly Go: Launching EnterpriseNEW! (HD)
    • Part 1: Countdown
    • Part 2: Boarding the NX-01
    • Part 3: First Flight
    • Archival Mission Log: Celebrating Star Trek(SD)
I'm not convinced the cover is all it could've been, but I guess I'll feel differently in March when I see the real thing sitting on a shelf.

There's nothing wrong with having chosen this image really... I've always liked it since it appeared on the back of Art Asylum's action figure range... and it'll probably look awesome, the figures slightly raised up from the cardboard sleeve or the background holographic.



But I do wonder how they're going to acheive a matching style from season to season.
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Old January 8 2013, 02:06 PM   #71
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Re: The bird is out: ENTERPRISE on blu-ray

http://ent.trekcore.com/bluray/01072013_s1coverart.html

Check out the msrp of $129, this pretty much confirms that they will be gouging the fans.

I could justify $65 for TNG and TOS considering the extensive work done, but why charge so much for ENT a show that was in high def from the very beginning and was even broadcast that way?

The price is too high considering the BD prices of Enterprise's contemporary space shows (Firefly, BSG, SGA, Farscape, etc.) all are priced much more competitively.
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Old January 8 2013, 02:50 PM   #72
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Amazon.com has it for pre-order: http://www.amazon.com/Star-Trek-Ente.../dp/B0019N95IK ($83.99)
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Old January 8 2013, 05:01 PM   #73
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Poor Phlox.
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Old January 8 2013, 05:12 PM   #74
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Check out the msrp of $129, this pretty much confirms that they will be gouging the fans.

I could justify $65 for TNG and TOS considering the extensive work done, but why charge so much for ENT a show that was in high def from the very beginning and was even broadcast that way?
You should have probably checked the msrp of the other Trek series before posting this...
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Old January 8 2013, 05:19 PM   #75
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As someone who does not hold any malice toward Braga, I wasn't too impressed with the promo interview they posted with him. He seemed very bored and disinterested. He was slouched in the chair and fidgeting, as if he'd rather be anywhere but in that interview.
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