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Old January 23 2010, 02:31 PM   #16
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Re: Is it me or is there something special about Twin Peaks?

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I want David Lynch to just flat-out do a science fiction TV series.
I don't know if he's really a flat-out sci-fi guy. His "Dune" wasn't very well regarded and I don't think the he was even a big fan of it.

I feel he's definitely more of a "fantasy/mystical" guy. I think he likes the more unusual stuff and the more of stuff where the laws of physics and reality arn't fixed but more fluid. Like with Twin Peaks, Mulholand Drive, Inland Empire, Wild at Heart, etc...

That said if you can ever track down his script for "One saliva bubble" you can see his take on a semi-sci-fi film (never made of course) that follws what happens in a town that has a secret governemtn supercomputer thing in it and how it gets all screwed up when one small bubble causes a computer malfunction that leads to big trouble.

Or his other sci-fi script (also unmade) call "Robbie Rocket Pants" (or something like that) set in a futuristic blade runner/noir type city and the title character (Robbie Rocket Pants) is a robot. Or maybe he's a human that thinks he's a robot. or something. It's been years since I read it. But I remember thinking it would be a good film.

Ronnie Rocket. Pretty sure the Little Man From Another Place (Mike Anderson, the carny master from CARNIVALE) was going to play the part.
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Old January 23 2010, 05:17 PM   #17
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Re: Is it me or is there something special about Twin Peaks?

He still talks about ronnie rocket every so often, it's still on his mind.

Back to Twin Peaks, there was talk last year that Mark Frost and Kyle MacLachlan wanted to create a Cooper TV series, or at least some web content. Kyle mentioned it in an interview once, but there has been no further word. they were likely just dreaming, with no real intent of doing it.

I wouldn't mind seeing Lynch do a straight detective film, the opening scenes of FWWM show he could pull off that type of thing. Chester Desmond was great, really cool.

my last thought is that i''m suprised that lynch hasn't worked with Ray Wise since then.
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Old January 23 2010, 09:55 PM   #18
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Re: Is it me or is there something special about Twin Peaks?

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Twin Peaks is one of my favorite series, I have a poster of it on my wall.

I think the series is perfection up until mid season two, when it falls off a cliff. The characters are some of the best ever on television, and the series has a feeling unlike anything else. I agree with what was said earlier, it feels like a real place that you could visit.

It does pick up in the last few episodes, and the final episode or two is as good as the early ones. I like the prequel film, but it doesn't feel like the series, I only suggest it to people who like other Lynch projects.
I pretty much agree with this assessment of the series. I really loved it at the time and I still consider the episodes in which Laura's killer is revealed to the audience and the episode 17 which concludes the murder story to be some of the most amazing TV dramatic moments ever. But the show went down after that so terribly that I found it unbearable to watch, so I quit. When I watched it again, I felt the same. I only saw the last few episodes a couple of years ago, having heard so many people talk about the ending and claiming that the story does pick up near the end, with Lynch returning to the show - and this is true. I don't think the ending is anything like the ending of The Sopranos - that one was vague and low-key, while the TP ending felt like a cliffhanger, despite the show having been cancelled.

I enjoyed the prequel film, but the only problem I had was that it felt like two different films which were tied together very loosely. Both parts felt very Lynchian, but the first part, dealing with a couple of agents played by Chris Isaak and Kiefer Sutherland, is slow, uneventful and open-ended, and a bit dull. The second part, which shows Laura's last days, is very intense and IMO much better. Sheryl Lee does justice to the character of Laura (I was concerned what it would be like seeing Laura on screen, having loved the character on the show despite the fact that she never actually appeared except in short flashbacks and recordings), and Ray Wise is great. Some might not like the fact that the actress for Donna was changed due to Lara Flynn Boyle refusing to appear (Moira Kelly played her instead), but I had no problems with it. One thing that the film improves on from the show is the portrayal of James and his relationship with Laura - he is not as lame and annoying as he was on the show.
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Old January 24 2010, 12:45 AM   #19
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Re: Is it me or is there something special about Twin Peaks?

I also loved Twin Peaks. I had them all recorded when they first aired on old VHS and went back to transfer them to digital files a few years ago. It was even more weird what with all the old commercials during the breaks (like a BK one featuring a pre-famous Cuba Gooding Jr. with parachute pants and a parrot set to early commercialized rap music!).

The thing about Twin Peaks is that it was already set up to revisit the series. When we see the famous Laura Palmer dream sequence inside the Black Lodge, that was set 25 years later. That is only five years away now! It's a perfect chance to pick up the story again and play with what happened at the cliffhanger ending. Plus, Heather Graham (who got her start on this show) is still as hot as ever.

Also, if there never was Twin Peaks there never would have been the X-Files. As X-Files pulled a lot of the moodiness from Peaks and of course David Duchovny also came to fame playing the transvestite Agent Dennis/Denise there as well.
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Old January 5 2013, 07:00 AM   #20
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AICN has a story that supposedly Lynch pitched a TP continuation to NBC recently. It's just crazy enough to be true, but I thought Lynch had given up on narrative filmmaking (then again, there are probably folks who think TP doesn't count as narrative filmmaking ... )

I'm apprehensive but excited. Especially if Frost was going to be involved, because Lynch needed that yin yang on TP, if not his other work. But it's probably all b.s.
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Old January 5 2013, 08:56 PM   #21
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^ Not true. Meeting never happened.

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Old January 5 2013, 10:01 PM   #22
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Sci fi/mystical/whatever would work for me. It would be fun to see a Lynch series set in space. It would make Farscape look normal.
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Old January 6 2013, 08:30 PM   #23
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I'd be happy to see Lynch do anything at this point. It's been five years since Inland Empire. I know he's been involved in other projects (music, some cameos here and there) but It would be great to see something substantial.

EDIT- On the bright side, It appears Eraserhead will be receiving a full blown Criterion Collection treatment this year.
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Old January 6 2013, 10:17 PM   #24
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It's not just you. Twin Peaks is extraordinary, one of the finest TV shows ever made.

At least, it is until, ohhh, the end of Season 2's ninth episode (the 17th in all.) You might want to stop watching at that point...

This. I always tell people to stop watching at that point and it's the greatest miniseries in TV history...after that it's the greatest disappointment.
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Old January 7 2013, 02:42 AM   #25
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Naah, even with some of the dumb subplots coming in later in season 2, it still has lots of terrific stuff happening. Geez, what may be my favorite romantic scene ever is in there, when Coop and Annie talk about Heisenberg in Norma's cafe. Right up there with THE AGE OF INNOCENCE and Sutherland/Adams in Kaufman's INVASION OF THE BODY SNATCHERS in terms of my favorite love stories.
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Old January 7 2013, 06:06 AM   #26
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Naah, even with some of the dumb subplots coming in later in season 2, it still has lots of terrific stuff happening. Geez, what may be my favorite romantic scene ever is in there, when Coop and Annie talk about Heisenberg in Norma's cafe. Right up there with THE AGE OF INNOCENCE and Sutherland/Adams in Kaufman's INVASION OF THE BODY SNATCHERS in terms of my favorite love stories.
I agree. The shows takes a dive, but I think there are enough bits here and there that it's worth watching (and that's putting aside the awesome Lynch directed finale and Fire Walk With Me). For instance, the return of Gordon Cole and his subsequent romancing of Shelly
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Old January 7 2013, 01:14 PM   #27
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Re: Is it me or is there something special about Twin Peaks?

The problem is not so much the drop in quality, but what happens, or doesn't, at the end of the season. If you stop watching where we suggest, the series has an end point. Otherwise....
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Old January 7 2013, 05:37 PM   #28
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The problem is not so much the drop in quality, but what happens, or doesn't, at the end of the season. If you stop watching where we suggest, the series has an end point. Otherwise....
Well, It's slightly less troublesome if you consider Fire Walk With Me the ending, with


It's not as razorsharp perfect as stopping at episode 17, but it's not too bad. Of course I wish Lynch had been able to do another film or two as he originally wanted. (Killed by the fact that FWWM bombed. Kyle Maclachlan and Lynch also had a falling out)
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Old January 7 2013, 06:02 PM   #29
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The problem is not so much the drop in quality, but what happens, or doesn't, at the end of the season. If you stop watching where we suggest, the series has an end point. Otherwise....
Agreed. The show had such a strong central issue and sense of urgency, ideally it would always have been a limited-run series. The hook was "Who killed Laura Palmer?", not "The Adventures of Special Agent Cooper." There was really no way they were going to hold old viewers or snag new ones after that was resolved. Of course, US network TV didn't work that way. The show really lost its way immediately after the mystery was solved, and though it was starting to pick up in quality when it ended, the plot had lost the unified motivation that had been so strong before. Windom Earle, the Black Lodge, "gathering angels" or whatever, and did Maj. Briggs have something to do with aliens? It was unfocused and pretty much a letdown from the early part of the series.

It was still better than 90% of what was on TV, of course, but that's never been good enough.

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Old January 8 2013, 01:58 AM   #30
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The thing is, Lynch never wanted to solve who killed Laura Palmer. I've read countless bits with him where it was all about process and drawing things out and going on story detours, that the Palmer killing was the invitation into TP, NOT what the show was actually about at all.

I think the dynamic between Lynch and Frost was a very good one, but that it got out of balance when Lynch was away shooting a movie. I think Frost's notion of the Black Lodge is a lot more interesting and textured than what we get from Lynch, which seems more B&W. Then again, the next time I watch the last ep, I'm sure I'll reverse that opinion (the series almost never plays the same way for me, which is how I manage to rewatch it every year or so.)

And based on stuff that was in WRAPPED IN PLASTIC magazine, the finale was a bit clearer as scripted, and Lynch definitely weirded it up a lot, which is good in a lot of ways, but still kind of pissed me off at the time (not as much as the killing of another character a couple shows before the Palmer wrapup, which practically had me kicking the TV in I was so enraged.)
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