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Old January 6 2013, 09:43 PM   #16
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Re: Worst Voyager race: Farengi

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I have forgotten Inside Man. I can't remember a thing about it

False Profits I like just fine. I am always impressed by how profit is so deeply critical to Ferengi beliefs and identity that they are willing to give up everything they ever knew just to amass profit in a place they can't spend it. Just to sit on it. Never see Ferenginar again or their families but to be HAPPY, super super happy because they have profit. They don't even get to gloat about it to other people.

Not too impressed with the dumbass star trek villagers but they are in every series, always the same.
I don't think it's the premise that's the major issue here so much. It's more the two dimensional-ness of it.

First, no way they should have done the "We can get home now! Oops, sorry, our morality screws us over again." That was just plain awful.

I would have liked to see the episode play out more than that last Maybourne episode in Stargate. That the planet realized they were not Gods and were exploiting them, but also realized that their economy was much better off and they had advanced more in the last few years than the previous few centuries. So maybe they let the ferengi stay, but as equal competitors instead of superiors. And I would have the ferengi be able to spin their tongue as well as Quark could and advocate his position instead of just snarling off how awesome profit is.

The way the villagers were written, I imagine one year after the ferengi left, the whole population went extinct due to a series of minor accidents. Somebody falls off a building, somebody sticks their arm in a wood chipper, somebody climbs into a lion cage. It really would have been more humane to leave the Ferengi as their gods. At least the Ferengi could teach them how to dress themselves, and teach them the stove is hot.
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Old January 6 2013, 09:47 PM   #17
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I have forgotten Inside Man. I can't remember a thing about it
Clive Owen is hiding behind a false wall in a bank and Denzel Washington and the bad guy from Serenity are trying to find him.
Then Denzel gets to confront Gen. Chang. (I love Inside Man )

The VOY one not bad either. That's the one with the cool, confident holo-Barclay?
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Old January 6 2013, 10:01 PM   #18
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Not too impressed with the dumbass star trek villagers but they are in every series, always the same.
Love to see a episode sometime where the ox cart technology villagers, show up our intellectually evolved heroes at the end of the episode.

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Old January 6 2013, 10:04 PM   #19
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Isn't that Errand Of Mercy?

But yes, would have been fun to see more in Trek (and Stargate)
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Old January 6 2013, 10:08 PM   #20
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I think this is the best line of ferengi dialog ever written in Trek:

ZEK

Nevertheless, it is becoming more and more difficult to find truly lucrative business opportunities here in the Alpha Quadrant.

ZEK

And why? Because no matter where we go, our reputation precedes us. A reputation that has been tainted by the lies of our competitors who maliciously spread the erroneous impression that we are not to be trusted.

In Voyager all we get is. "We must have more PROFIT! So we can get LOBE ENHANCEMENTS!"
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Old January 7 2013, 03:53 AM   #21
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teacake wrote: View Post
I have forgotten Inside Man. I can't remember a thing about it

False Profits I like just fine. I am always impressed by how profit is so deeply critical to Ferengi beliefs and identity that they are willing to give up everything they ever knew just to amass profit in a place they can't spend it. Just to sit on it. Never see Ferenginar again or their families but to be HAPPY, super super happy because they have profit. They don't even get to gloat about it to other people.

Not too impressed with the dumbass star trek villagers but they are in every series, always the same.
I like it too.
the Ferengi remind me of our society and to show what type of people Bernie Maddox and those that ran Enron are really like.

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In Voyager all we get is. "We must have more PROFIT! So we can get LOBE ENHANCEMENTS!"
Keeping up with the Kardashians?
Jersey Shore?
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Old January 7 2013, 04:11 AM   #22
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the truth is in the beginning.

PORTAL: What of them? Shall I destroy them?
RIKER: Then they would learn nothing.
PORTAL: A most interesting conclusion. But what if they will never learn, Riker?
RIKER: Is this a test also?
PORTAL: In life, one is always tested.
RIKER: I find them very much as we were a several hundred years ago, but possessing the technology they have now, they're very dangerous .
KAYRON: Untrue. We seek friendship with you.
RIKER: But we can hardly hate what we once were. They may grow and learn.
PORTAL: And learn ways to destroy you.
RIKER: Our values require us to face that possibility. What of you, with your empire gone?
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