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Old January 4 2013, 12:27 AM   #16
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Re: New Star Trek Into Darkness summary

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...does anybody edit these at Empire?

"... a mission to try and rectify his mistake." UGH!

"... are headed off...." Headed off is past tense, as in "had headed off". "... are heading off...." is better.

And it's sad to see our heroes are separated from the Enterprise. I hope it doesn't end in a messy divorce.

Meh, I'm just being anal retentive I guess.
You're not being anal retentive, not at all. Thing is, you may not be taking into account dialect differences.

"Headed off" can be used in a descriptive way, as an adjective.

"Try and rectify" is also acceptable.

It's a matter of dialect, trust me. The "and" thing sounded just fine to me when I first read it, and after you brought up "headed off" I went back, re-read it, thought about it, and realized it was also familiar. Less so, but familiar nonetheless.

Let's face it, if "lift" and "elevator, "apartment" and "flat", "boot" and "trunk" and "hood" and "bonnet" can, in each case, be two ways of saying exactly the same thing...

Certainly there can be variations with regards to how things are phrased. If common nouns can vary so much, expressions and phrasings can too.
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Old January 4 2013, 01:27 AM   #17
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[QUOTE=The Wormhole;7482364]The only thing that gets me is when they describe John Harrison as an ex-Starfleet employee.

QUOTE]I'm pretty sure that's how Abrams refered to Harrison as while he was in Japan. The Empire writer probaby read that and put it in the article.
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Old January 4 2013, 01:51 AM   #18
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The only thing that gets me is when they describe John Harrison as an ex-Starfleet employee.
I'm pretty sure that's how Abrams refered to Harrison as while he was in Japan. The Empire writer probaby read that and put it in the article.

Not the "Ex" part.

Here is what Abrams said in Japan:
His name is John Harrison and he is sort of an average – that is what makes him so scary – he is just an average guy who works in an organization called Starfleet, and he turns against the group because he has got this back-story and this kind of amazing secret agenda. After two very violent attacks, one in London and one in the US, our characters have to go after this guy and apprehend him. And it is a far more complicated and difficult thing then they ever anticipated. “Into Darkness” is very much about how intense it gets and really what they are up against.
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Unless, of course, he could be considered an "ex-member" of Starfleet as soon as he does whatever dastardly thing it is that he does.
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Old January 4 2013, 04:00 AM   #19
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Couldn't they have just said "former Starfleet officer" as opposed to "ex-employee." Hell, calling him an officer makes him sound a lot more interesting and exciting than employee.
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Old January 4 2013, 09:46 AM   #20
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"Works for" and "ex-employee" don't sound military. He may not be an officer at all. Perhaps he's a civilian scientist who does work for Starfleet (see: Carol Marcus, Wrath of Khan version), hence him not having a coloured smock over the generic black shirt.
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Old January 4 2013, 06:03 PM   #21
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"Works for" and "ex-employee" don't sound military. He may not be an officer at all. Perhaps he's a civilian scientist who does work for Starfleet (see: Carol Marcus, Wrath of Khan version), hence him not having a coloured smock over the generic black shirt.
Or maybe he removed the coloured smock as a symbol of his independence from Starfleet, like Kirk in the Mirror Universe sotryline in IDW's comics. As for the terms used in the article, sloppy writing.
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Old January 4 2013, 08:17 PM   #22
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Or, it may be that the colored tunic is worn only by personnel while actively serving aboard a vessel.

Think about it. We saw a variety of uniforms in the first film, and the only place we saw people wearing the TOS-derived color-coded tunic was aboard the Enterprise itself. When we saw those same officers in other situations - Pike, Spock, Uhura, Scotty - they wore different uniforms or clothing. The same appears to be true in photographs from the second movie.
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Old January 4 2013, 08:18 PM   #23
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...As for the terms used in the article, sloppy writing.
Yeah, but it begs the question: "Whose sloppy writing"?

If this came from some fan who THINKS he knows the plot, then it becomes less relevant than if it actually came from the production. The sloppy writing from this latest alleged synopsis could be due to this fan (1) being a bad writer, and/or (2) not being a native English-speaker.


By the way, has it ever been confirmed that the "detonate the fleet" synopsis came straight from Paramount? I know that some websites said it was from Paramount, but was it really? Or maybe was it possibly from Paramount's Japanese publicity tour for the film, and some fan translated it from Japanese (and translated it badly)?

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Old January 4 2013, 08:40 PM   #24
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Or, it may be that the colored tunic is worn only by personnel while actively serving aboard a vessel.

Think about it. We saw a variety of uniforms in the first film, and the only place we saw people wearing the TOS-derived color-coded tunic was aboard the Enterprise itself. When we saw those same officers in other situations - Pike, Spock, Uhura, Scotty - they wore different uniforms or clothing. The same appears to be true in photographs from the second movie.
Combined with the budget to have more than one uniform type, that makes sense. You don't see personnel on aircraft carriers wearing their green, purple, red, yellow, etc. color-coded uniforms off ship (or even off duty).
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Old January 4 2013, 10:19 PM   #25
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Actually I'd been accepting this as a given since first seeing the movie in 2009. It appears to be the way the costuming was designed. Even when McCoy is boarding a shuttle to go to the Enterprise he's wearing a "ground uniform;" he changes into the TOS outfit sometime after Kirk loses consciousness in Sick Bay.

We never see a TOS-style outfit on anyone at Starfleet - not at the Academy, not at ceremonies or gatherings, not on the grounds outside.
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Old January 5 2013, 01:52 AM   #26
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By the way, has it ever been confirmed that the "detonate the fleet" synopsis came straight from Paramount? I know that some websites said it was from Paramount, but was it really? Or maybe was it possibly from Paramount's Japanese publicity tour for the film, and some fan translated it from Japanese (and translated it badly)?
Startrek.com claimed it was from Paramount on November 27. See here. If the official Star Trek website says it's from Paramount, that's enough for me to believe it's from Paramount.
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Old January 5 2013, 03:42 AM   #27
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Old January 9 2013, 10:39 PM   #28
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with Earth under terrorist attack from Benedict Cumberbatch's ex-Starfleet employee John Harrison, Kirk is this time forced into a rash decision that breaks a critical Starfleet command, puts his crew in danger & costs him his captain's chair. Now out of uniform and dressed down in space civvies of black leather jackets and boots, our three heroes have separated from the Enterprise and headed off on a mission to try and rectify his mistake...


http://blastr.com/2013/01/new-star-trek-into-darkne.php

Holy crap, Pine did say Kirk had to earn his command in this movie.
Oh my...i lost the extremely excited feeling when i hear about a Trek movie after the reboot.
I just watch it because it has something to do with Star Trek...
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Old January 9 2013, 10:50 PM   #29
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Maybe they're trotting out that old "We want to remake 'Heart of Darkness'" thing again. Hence Star Trek Into Darkness.
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Old January 11 2013, 02:00 AM   #30
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Unfortunately Dennis Hopper is not available.
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