Top Ten Worst Episodes? - Page 5

Maurice · September 17 2012, 07:23 AM

T'Girl wrote:

ssosmcin wrote:

Patterns of Force: "Hitler made the trains run on time ...

That would have been Benito Mussolini, not Hitler.

So the saying goes. Truth is, he didn't.

ssosmcin · September 17 2012, 08:59 PM

Truth is, nobody can make the damned trains run on time. Or when it rains, or is below 70 degrees.

Nacluv · September 20 2012, 12:11 AM

12 votes:
And the Children Shall Lead

9 votes:
The Way to Eden
Spock's Brain

8 votes:
Plato's Stepchildren
The Mark of Gideon

7 votes:
The Alternative Factor
The Omega Glory
Catspaw

6 votes:
Let That Be Your Last Battlefield

5 votes:
Charlie X
Mudd's Women

4 votes:
The Empath

3 votes:
Turnabout Intruder
Shore Leave
The Cloud Minders
That Which Survives
For the World Is Hollow and I Have Touched the Sky

2 votes:
Metamorphosis
Who Mourns for Adonais
Assignment: Earth
Whom Gods Destroy
Elaan of Troyius
Patterns of Force
Spectre of the Gun
The Apple
The Gamesters of Triskelion
A Piece of the Action
The Lights of Zetar
Miri
I, Mudd

1 votes:
Return of the Archons
The Paradise Syndrome
The Ultimate Computer
Wolf in the Fold
The Man Trap
Wink of an Eye
All Our Yesterdays
Is There in Truth No Beauty?
Requiem for Methuselah
Friday's Child
A Private Little War
This Side of Paradise
Return to Tomorrow

Captain Checkov · December 20 2012, 10:42 PM

1. The Children Shall Lead. This is something my 2nd grader would have written. Pump your fist a few times to induce hallucinations and take over a spaceship. Yeah right.
2. Mark of Gideon. This episode makes no sense on so many levels I don't even know where to begin. So I'll just end it here.
3. The Way to Eden. We all know the issues here.
4. Miri. When you wish the kids to be vaporized by phasers, there is a serious problem.
5. Shore Leave. The segment with Finnegan was unbearable. Why didn't the keeper show up at the beginning to explain what was going on? I mean, WTF?
6. Requiem for Methuselah. A whole episode so they could reuse Nomad again. Also, about the 5th episode they need to transport drugs for some outbreak. Kirk blows off how many women, but finally falls in love with an android. You can't make this stuff up---oh but someone obviously did.
7. Plato's stepchildren. I'd rather spend time in an Iraqi prison than watch Spock sing and dance to tweedledee again.
8. Squire of Gothos. Star Trek's Jar Jar Binks.
9. For the World Is Hollow and I Have Touched the Sky. Rehash of the Paradise syndrome except McCoy marries instead of Kirk.
10. The Apple. Dumb and unwatchable.
11. Operation Annihilate. They didn't bother testing a different spectrum??? Spock deserved to be blinded if he is that stupid. (Not to mention, their solution contradicts an earlier statement in which they did try "radiation.")
12. The Enemy Within. I thought Kirk was about to have sex with his opposite.
13. By Any Other Name. They run out of that cave knowing Rojan is standing right there? What a bunch of idiots. After Rojan is defeated, Kirk calls him a friend even though Rojan just dehydrated to death a female crew member?
14. Light of Zetar. Bad, bad, bad, bad.

erastus25 · December 21 2012, 12:13 AM

My list (in no particular order):
Alternative Factor
Catspaw
Metamorphasis
Friday's Child
Deadly Years
Spock's Brain
And the Children Shall Lead
Plato's Stepchildren
Lights of Zetar
Turnabout Intruder

T'Bonz · December 21 2012, 07:55 AM

In no particular order:

And the Children Shall Lead
Way to Eden
Plato's Stepchildren
Spock's Brain
This Side of Paradise
The Paradise Syndrome
The Cloud Minders
The Omega Glory
Elaan of Troyius
Is There in Truth No Beauty

lurok · December 21 2012, 10:36 AM

Loathe to say these are 'the worst', but episodes only ever had interest in seeing once:

The Corbomite Manuever
The Man Trap
Charlie X
Miri
Shore Leave
The Conscience Of The King
Arena
Court Martial
Devil In The Dark
Altenative Factor
The Apple
Fridays Child
Wolf In The Fold
And The Children Shall Lead
Requiem For Methuselah
The Savage Curtain

A lot of the popular 'bad' episodes I find quite entertaining, unlike many of above.

KeepOnTrekking · December 22 2012, 01:07 AM

Spock's Brain ("Brain and brain! What is brain?")
The Way to Eden ("Herbert! Herbert! Herbert!")
And the Children Shall Lead ("Busy. Busy. Busy.")
Miri ("Blah. Blah. Blah.")
Catspaw ("Go back! Go back! Go back!")
The Alternative Factor ("What of Lazarus? What of Lazarus?")
Patterns of Force ("Hail, Fuhrer! Hail, Fuhrer!")
The Mark of Gideon ("Yes, You Excellency. Yes, Your Excellency.")
Wolf in the Fold ("Die! Die! Everybody die!")
The Omega Glory ("We....The....People")

JiNX-01 · December 22 2012, 01:55 AM

Charlie X
The Alternate Factor
Catspaw
And The Children Shall Lead
Spock's Brain
Plato's Stepchildren
Turnabout Intruder
The Way to Eden
Miri
Patterns of Force

Josan · December 22 2012, 09:46 PM

Charlie X seems to be on a few lists. I'm curious. What's so bad about it?

I find it an interesting story. A boy struggling with becoming a man plus the added complications of having been completely removed with his own people so he has no socialization skills and godlike powers to boot. Makes adolescence damned hard indeed.

Delta Vega · December 31 2012, 01:01 AM

I`m sorry, I wasnt going to truly partake in this Trek bash thread, but today I watched what I absolutely believe to be Star Treks worst episode.

The Apple

Incredibly stupid, incredbly insensitive to the loss of 4 crew members, and I kept waiting for David Soul to burst into song

CaptPapa · January 4 2013, 02:24 AM

I really don't care for 'worst' lists, but I can give the last 10 of my favorite 79 episodes

.

70 - Let That Be Your Last Battlefield - just too blatant
71 - The Man Trap - not what I would have picked for a premiere
72 - Spock’s Brain - actually, it's so ugly it's cute
73 - The Alternative Factor - why?
74 - Miri - kids, yechhh
75 - And The Children Shall Lead - ditto
76 - Mudd’s Women - I preferred Mudd's other appearances
77 - The Way To Eden - too '60s
78 - Plato’s Stephchildren - other than the kiss,

79 - The Omega Glory - even though it has Morgan Woodward

Chris_Johnston · January 9 2013, 02:50 PM

Well, if given a choice between any of the episodes you people have listed, and an episode from an Irwin Allen show, I'll take the Trek any day of the week.

EDIT: And I find it kinda sad that a forum search for "Top Ten Best Episodes" yields no matches.

Admiral Buzzkill · January 9 2013, 03:17 PM

"Charlie X" is one of the best TOS episodes.

ZapBrannigan · January 15 2013, 05:40 AM

Least favorites:

76th: Plato's Stepchildren. This episode is deliberately embarrassing and that's hard to take.

77th: The Savage Curtain. Lincoln comes aboard? And then we fight weirdos for the edification of a rock monster? I'm stunned at how few others here have listed it.

78th: And the Children Shall Lead. The children are annoying, and the story uses a fantasy plot device to rationalize having characters behave in ways that real people never would.

79th: The Alternative Factor. The actor cast to play Lazarus went to lunch on day one and never came back. The producers had to scramble like crazy to bring in Robert Brown to play the part with no prep whatsoever, not knowing his lines, and no time to put together a decent look for his character-- and it showed. The whole episode was a trainwreck in production and it's hard to follow with all the Lazarus-switching.

If they'd had another week to iron things out, "The Alternative Factor" could have been a lousy episode like "Let that be Your Last Battlefield" or "That Which Survives." But there was simply no time to solve the problems, and the result was a wooden, jumbled, terrible episode.

September 17 2012, 08:59 PM	#62
ssosmcin Commodore Location: New Yawk	Re: Top Ten Worst Episodes? Truth is, nobody can make the damned trains run on time. Or when it rains, or is below 70 degrees. __________________ "Tranya is people!"

September 20 2012, 12:11 AM	#63
Nacluv Lieutenant Commander	Re: Top Ten Worst Episodes? 12 votes: And the Children Shall Lead 9 votes: The Way to Eden Spock's Brain 8 votes: Plato's Stepchildren The Mark of Gideon 7 votes: The Alternative Factor The Omega Glory Catspaw 6 votes: Let That Be Your Last Battlefield 5 votes: Charlie X Mudd's Women 4 votes: The Empath 3 votes: Turnabout Intruder Shore Leave The Cloud Minders That Which Survives For the World Is Hollow and I Have Touched the Sky 2 votes: Metamorphosis Who Mourns for Adonais Assignment: Earth Whom Gods Destroy Elaan of Troyius Patterns of Force Spectre of the Gun The Apple The Gamesters of Triskelion A Piece of the Action The Lights of Zetar Miri I, Mudd 1 votes: Return of the Archons The Paradise Syndrome The Ultimate Computer Wolf in the Fold The Man Trap Wink of an Eye All Our Yesterdays Is There in Truth No Beauty? Requiem for Methuselah Friday's Child A Private Little War This Side of Paradise Return to Tomorrow

December 20 2012, 10:42 PM	#64
Captain Checkov Cadet	Re: Top Ten Worst Episodes? 1. The Children Shall Lead. This is something my 2nd grader would have written. Pump your fist a few times to induce hallucinations and take over a spaceship. Yeah right. 2. Mark of Gideon. This episode makes no sense on so many levels I don't even know where to begin. So I'll just end it here. 3. The Way to Eden. We all know the issues here. 4. Miri. When you wish the kids to be vaporized by phasers, there is a serious problem. 5. Shore Leave. The segment with Finnegan was unbearable. Why didn't the keeper show up at the beginning to explain what was going on? I mean, WTF? 6. Requiem for Methuselah. A whole episode so they could reuse Nomad again. Also, about the 5th episode they need to transport drugs for some outbreak. Kirk blows off how many women, but finally falls in love with an android. You can't make this stuff up---oh but someone obviously did. 7. Plato's stepchildren. I'd rather spend time in an Iraqi prison than watch Spock sing and dance to tweedledee again. 8. Squire of Gothos. Star Trek's Jar Jar Binks. 9. For the World Is Hollow and I Have Touched the Sky. Rehash of the Paradise syndrome except McCoy marries instead of Kirk. 10. The Apple. Dumb and unwatchable. 11. Operation Annihilate. They didn't bother testing a different spectrum??? Spock deserved to be blinded if he is that stupid. (Not to mention, their solution contradicts an earlier statement in which they did try "radiation.") 12. The Enemy Within. I thought Kirk was about to have sex with his opposite. 13. By Any Other Name. They run out of that cave knowing Rojan is standing right there? What a bunch of idiots. After Rojan is defeated, Kirk calls him a friend even though Rojan just dehydrated to death a female crew member? 14. Light of Zetar. Bad, bad, bad, bad.

December 21 2012, 12:13 AM	#65
erastus25 Fleet Captain	Re: Top Ten Worst Episodes? My list (in no particular order): Alternative Factor Catspaw Metamorphasis Friday's Child Deadly Years Spock's Brain And the Children Shall Lead Plato's Stepchildren Lights of Zetar Turnabout Intruder __________________ "Ford!" he said, "there's an infinite number of monkeys outside who want to talk to us about this script for Hamlet they've worked out."

December 21 2012, 07:55 AM	#66
T'Bonz Romulan Curmudgeon Location: Across the Neutral Zone	Re: Top Ten Worst Episodes? In no particular order: And the Children Shall Lead Way to Eden Plato's Stepchildren Spock's Brain This Side of Paradise The Paradise Syndrome The Cloud Minders The Omega Glory Elaan of Troyius Is There in Truth No Beauty __________________ Live long and suffer! - Ancient Romulan greeting. Romulans aren't paranoid. We're merely proactively cautious.

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December 21 2012, 10:36 AM	#67
lurok Commodore Location: Lost In The EU Expanse	Re: Top Ten Worst Episodes? Loathe to say these are 'the worst', but episodes only ever had interest in seeing once: The Corbomite Manuever The Man Trap Charlie X Miri Shore Leave The Conscience Of The King Arena Court Martial Devil In The Dark Altenative Factor The Apple Fridays Child Wolf In The Fold And The Children Shall Lead Requiem For Methuselah The Savage Curtain A lot of the popular 'bad' episodes I find quite entertaining, unlike many of above. Last edited by lurok; December 21 2012 at 03:58 PM.

December 22 2012, 01:07 AM	#68
KeepOnTrekking Commodore	Re: Top Ten Worst Episodes? Spock's Brain ("Brain and brain! What is brain?") The Way to Eden ("Herbert! Herbert! Herbert!") And the Children Shall Lead ("Busy. Busy. Busy.") Miri ("Blah. Blah. Blah.") Catspaw ("Go back! Go back! Go back!") The Alternative Factor ("What of Lazarus? What of Lazarus?") Patterns of Force ("Hail, Fuhrer! Hail, Fuhrer!") The Mark of Gideon ("Yes, You Excellency. Yes, Your Excellency.") Wolf in the Fold ("Die! Die! Everybody die!") The Omega Glory ("We....The....People")

December 22 2012, 01:55 AM	#69
JiNX-01 Asst. Chief Engineer NX01 Location: Under Cmdr. Tucker	Re: Top Ten Worst Episodes? Charlie X The Alternate Factor Catspaw And The Children Shall Lead Spock's Brain Plato's Stepchildren Turnabout Intruder The Way to Eden Miri Patterns of Force __________________ I put up my thumb and shut one eye, and my thumb blotted out the planet Earth. I didn't feel like a giant. I felt very, very small. -- Neil Armstrong 1930-2012 --

December 22 2012, 09:46 PM	#70
Josan Commodore Location: London, Canada	Re: Top Ten Worst Episodes? Charlie X seems to be on a few lists. I'm curious. What's so bad about it? I find it an interesting story. A boy struggling with becoming a man plus the added complications of having been completely removed with his own people so he has no socialization skills and godlike powers to boot. Makes adolescence damned hard indeed. __________________ Issue 19 of the Winterwind Papers now online http://www.winterwind-productions.com Nationalism, brotherhood, 'pop' culture and puppy love

December 31 2012, 01:01 AM	#71
Delta Vega Lieutenant Commander Location: The Great Barrier	Re: Top Ten Worst Episodes? I`m sorry, I wasnt going to truly partake in this Trek bash thread, but today I watched what I absolutely believe to be Star Treks worst episode. The Apple Incredibly stupid, incredbly insensitive to the loss of 4 crew members, and I kept waiting for David Soul to burst into song

January 4 2013, 02:24 AM	#72
CaptPapa Lieutenant Commander Location: I really do not know . . .	Re: Top Ten Worst Episodes? I really don't care for 'worst' lists, but I can give the last 10 of my favorite 79 episodes. 70 - Let That Be Your Last Battlefield - just too blatant 71 - The Man Trap - not what I would have picked for a premiere 72 - Spock’s Brain - actually, it's so ugly it's cute 73 - The Alternative Factor - why? 74 - Miri - kids, yechhh 75 - And The Children Shall Lead - ditto 76 - Mudd’s Women - I preferred Mudd's other appearances 77 - The Way To Eden - too '60s 78 - Plato’s Stephchildren - other than the kiss, 79 - The Omega Glory - even though it has Morgan Woodward __________________ ME, what did I do?

January 9 2013, 02:50 PM	#73
Chris_Johnston Captain Location: Los Angeles, CA	Re: Top Ten Worst Episodes? Well, if given a choice between any of the episodes you people have listed, and an episode from an Irwin Allen show, I'll take the Trek any day of the week. EDIT: And I find it kinda sad that a forum search for "Top Ten Best Episodes" yields no matches. __________________ "Reality is whatever doesn't go away when you stop believing in it." --Philip K. Dick

January 9 2013, 03:17 PM	#74
Admiral Buzzkill The Man Location: Defying Gravity	Re: Top Ten Worst Episodes? "Charlie X" is one of the best TOS episodes. __________________ "I think [J.J. Abrams has] done a great thing for Star Trek. I’m very grateful to him. We all owe him a lot. When someone comes along like he has done and picks it up and elevates it, we should be grateful." - Leonard Nimoy

January 15 2013, 05:40 AM	#75
ZapBrannigan Commander Location: New York State	Re: Top Ten Worst Episodes? Least favorites: 76th: Plato's Stepchildren. This episode is deliberately embarrassing and that's hard to take. 77th: The Savage Curtain. Lincoln comes aboard? And then we fight weirdos for the edification of a rock monster? I'm stunned at how few others here have listed it. 78th: And the Children Shall Lead. The children are annoying, and the story uses a fantasy plot device to rationalize having characters behave in ways that real people never would. 79th: The Alternative Factor. The actor cast to play Lazarus went to lunch on day one and never came back. The producers had to scramble like crazy to bring in Robert Brown to play the part with no prep whatsoever, not knowing his lines, and no time to put together a decent look for his character-- and it showed. The whole episode was a trainwreck in production and it's hard to follow with all the Lazarus-switching. If they'd had another week to iron things out, "The Alternative Factor" could have been a lousy episode like "Let that be Your Last Battlefield" or "That Which Survives." But there was simply no time to solve the problems, and the result was a wooden, jumbled, terrible episode.