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Location: Bay Area, CA
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Re: Episode of the Week: Skin of Evil
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Re: Episode of the Week: Skin of Evil
The 'taken at face-value stuff' of his being a 'Skin of Evil'. No technobabble explanation of what the hell he's doing to Riker, and how "He had to let Riker go out of frustration" ....I guess he turned Riker to psychic energy??... Picard being dead-on in his speech about evil. The fact that Armus does have my pity...err (bad choice of words Troi) SYMPATHY! That's it... And while season one generally sucks, it's interesting because the actors can still surprise you with their choices. I love how in the middle all the actors are arguing over each other and Picard just taps on the table...juxtaposed..with Worf staring straight ahead not getting involved in the argument. Great choices, great direction. I honestly have no idea why this ep got such a bad rep. i love everything about it. Leland T. Lynch. The bit at the beginning that Crosby says if they had done more often she might have stayed (the martial arts bit). The shot near the end ,"The gathering is concluded" and everyone else crosses in front of Picard's closeup, but the focus stays on Picard. |
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Re: Episode of the Week: Skin of Evil
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Re: Episode of the Week: Skin of Evil
Yeah, that's my one disappointment in the whole sequence starting with Tasha saying "Enough!" on the planet through the beam up, attempt to save her, and her death. I was really hoping they'd somehow make that wound look more realistic because everything else was perfect.
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Location: Liverpool, UK
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Re: Episode of the Week: Skin of Evil
Troi and Worf both shine in this. It really does feel as though one character has stepped aside to allow these two to shine. You do feel pity for Armus - totally unexpected. This is where the writing begins to shine - "All spirits are enslaved that serve evil" - from Percy Shelley. I love the lines in the funeral scene - "Jean-Luc, the heart of an explorer and the soul of a poet", "death is that state in which one exists only in the memories of others, which is why it is not an end. No goodbyes, just good memories." My Dad died recently and I realise now that I must have subconciously gotten my philosophy on death from watching this as a kid! Then the moment where Data "get's it". Had me welling-up! Brilliant. And I'm glad we never got those episodic promo's in the UK - that left no surprises unsprung!
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Location: Bay Area, CA
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Re: Episode of the Week: Skin of Evil
It would have been a great episode without it. Rescuing Troi from Armus would have worked by itself. |
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Location: Liverpool, UK
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Re: Episode of the Week: Skin of Evil
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Re: Episode of the Week: Skin of Evil
1) I don't understand people's complaints about the circumstances of Tasha's death. Shit happens. You're there one second and gone the next. And if you want to say, "If i wanted realism, then I'd look out the window..." Then can't you give it credit for inverting the usual trope? 2) So according to Piller, Roddenberry told him (when Piller was presenting a second season script) "People in the 24rth century have moved beyond grieving over loved ones".....uhhhh...did they sneak this one past Gene? Did Sirtis just say "**** you, I'm going to do the funeral scene how I want." Admittedly, no one is out and out sobbing, and it makes it so much more effective, but they ARE grieving. |
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Re: Episode of the Week: Skin of Evil
That would erase the stain of favoritism from this one: it now looks as if the heroes put so much effort into Tasha only because she was a main character. But perhaps they do so offscreen for every yellowshirt? Actually seeing it happen at least once would be cute. Timo Saloniemi |
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Re: Episode of the Week: Skin of Evil
Yes, gone Picard. Wern't you paying attention? |
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Re: Episode of the Week: Skin of Evil
They don't quite have the bravery to follow through on their intent with Tasha's death. It's supposed to be brutal and harsh and sudden and- as she says herself when she "Comes back"- meaningless. Which is well done, but the final funeral scene somewhat undoes this attempt at small scale realism by having her ghost float down from heaven (or if you want to be mean about the production values, Tellytubie land) and give a great big seemingly endless goodbye speech. Oddly enough, I think Data's wake in Nemesis (in one of the few good bits of that film) did what they were aiming for much better. The slightly stunned, awkward small talk would have felt much more real and human here. Though in both cases you've got to feel sorry that neither character apparently has any other friends outside the main cast who could be bothered to turn up.
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Re: Episode of the Week: Skin of Evil
I thought the funeral was incredibly well done, especially the exchange between Picard and Data at the end. What undoes the realism of the death is the alternate-Yar non-sense in Yesterday's Enterprise and the entirety of the character of Sela.
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Location: Cookstown, Ontario, Canada
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Re: Episode of the Week: Skin of Evil
1) Picard's exchange with Armus at the end is amazing. Patrick Stewart always shines in these kinds of scenes. 2) Tasha's pink blood tattoo. Was makeup so behind the times in 1987? I know they wanted Tasha's death to be a surprise, but the dialogue before is just painful. It's an easy fix: show Armus in his goo, have him move still if you want to and then let them pass for a split second before killing Tasha. Cuts out that horrible "Enough!"
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Location: Second star to the right and 'round back to last night
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Re: Episode of the Week: Skin of Evil
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