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View Poll Results: Which film did you like best (even with reservations)?
Star Trek (2009) 60 67.42%
Prometheus (2012) 6 6.74%
The Dark Knight Rises (2012) 18 20.22%
I liked them all equally... 1 1.12%
I didn't care for any of them... 4 4.49%
Voters: 89. You may not vote on this poll

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Old January 1 2013, 08:41 PM   #61
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Re: A three film comparison/face-off...

And yet, and yet. Yet another of your threads proves a large majority of people on this board disagree with you.
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Old January 1 2013, 10:40 PM   #62
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And yet, and yet. Yet another of your threads proves a large majority of people on this board disagree with you.
So? I didn't start the thread to have people just agree with me. If they want to rave about a film I detest then they can do so to their hearts content.

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Today or this evening I think I'll get around to rewatching Prometheus. I actually liked TDKR a bit better than when I first saw it (as I mentioned upthread) so I'll see if my opinion of Prometheus changes after a second viewing.
Done. I just finished watching Prometheus for a second time and again, yeah, I like it a bit better this time around. For one thing the sound on the BluRay disc comes across better than what I recall hearing in the theatre. There are still some niggling problems, though, that aren't really clear.

The majority of the "scientists" were worthless. I could somewhat understand Fifield and Milburn starting to behave erratically out of exhaustion and panic, but overall they were idiots. And so it leaves the big question unanswered: why were these incompetents brought along on the expedition? I also question the Captain's deduction that the planet a sort of weapons depot housing something that got away from the Engineers. Of course, he's right, but the means by which he comes to that conclusion are left out. In the deleted scenes he explains that he saw something similar on Earth that he was reminded of by what he's seen on the planet. Just those few lines would have cleared up his apparent leap of logic. The final question, of course, is one left for the potential sequel: just why did the Engineers want to destroy humanity after supposedly creating it?

Yep, I still like it a bit better, but not as much as TDKR.
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Old January 1 2013, 10:55 PM   #63
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Re: A three film comparison/face-off...

TDKR

An ugly mess.

Prometheus

A hot mess.

Star Trek

An entertaining mess.
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Old January 2 2013, 12:59 AM   #64
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Re: A three film comparison/face-off...

New year, same old shit.

I liked all three movies.

Prometheus almost made the "ass" grade with the spastic scientist moments and Charlize Theron running in a straight line away from a giant rolling wheel.

TDKR consisted of superb moments that weren't connected very well.

Star Trek has made Warped9 uncontrollably cry for 5 years solid. That alone earns it respect.
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Old January 2 2013, 01:52 AM   #65
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Star Trek has made Warped9 uncontrollably cry for 5 years solid. That alone earns it respect.
I might as well ask the mods to close this. Everything was fine until this, from a jackass with an inflated sense of self importance who has never contributed anything of worth to a discussion. All he ever brings with him is a bag of dog shit to light on fire.

Mods, just close it.
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Old January 2 2013, 01:58 AM   #66
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Re: A three film comparison/face-off...

Happy new year!
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Old January 2 2013, 02:47 AM   #67
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Re: A three film comparison/face-off...

Like the best of those three seemingly random selections?

Star Trek 2009. I don't like the direction it's seems to be taking, what it looks like visually compared to TOS, nor do I think it had the strongest of stories, but I enjoyed it as a summer action movie. Which is about all it really was which is a bit sad, honestly. (The ending with making the young, recent graduate, Kirk captain of a ship also was bit "Starship Troopers-y".) But I can look at the movie as its own thing and enjoy it unconnected from anything that came before.

TDK: I don't think this movie too much "broke" the "curse" of the third installment of a superhero movie franchise. It's certainly not as bad as Superman III, the previous Batman movie franchise of even Spider-Man III but it's the weakest installment and has a lot of plot-holes and problems in it that aren't as easy to ignore as the previous Batman movies.

Prometheus. I liked it. It was good. Plot holes you can drive a truck through, but it was enjoyable enough.
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Old January 2 2013, 03:25 AM   #68
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New year, same old shit.

I liked all three movies.

Prometheus almost made the "ass" grade with the spastic scientist moments and Charlize Theron running in a straight line away from a giant rolling wheel.

TDKR consisted of superb moments that weren't connected very well.

Star Trek has made Warped9 uncontrollably cry for 5 years solid. That alone earns it respect.
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Star Trek has made Warped9 uncontrollably cry for 5 years solid. That alone earns it respect.
I might as well ask the mods to close this. Everything was fine until this, from a jackass with an inflated sense of self importance who has never contributed anything of worth to a discussion. All he ever brings with him is a bag of dog shit to light on fire.

Mods, just close it.
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Old January 2 2013, 10:44 AM   #69
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Star Trek is a fantastic summer movie and is in a different league from what had come previously.
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Old January 2 2013, 03:35 PM   #70
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Re: A three film comparison/face-off...

Good to compare movies, I suppose.

A better question: Which movie franchise would have benefitted from having Will Smith star in it?

I vote Prometheus.
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Old January 2 2013, 03:49 PM   #71
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Which movie franchise would have benefitted from having Will Smith star in it?

I vote Prometheus.
Prometheus could not be saved by actors. It had a fantastic cast and that didn't help. If Idris Elba and Charlize Theron can't save you, what could Will Smith do?
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Old January 2 2013, 06:50 PM   #72
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Will Smith as Jim Kirk would have worked much better. Smith's inevitable issues with his star image would have moderated the Giant-Dick-Fucks-the-World! personality Abrams gave Kirk.
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Old January 3 2013, 11:42 PM   #73
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2. Prometheus. I really enjoyed this movie...though it IS highly imperfect. I feel it was mostly executed exactly as the writers and producers wanted it to be, though I do not believe in ancient astronauts on Earth, I find the potential reveal of the speculated on origins of the Engineers and their masters along with the connection to the Aliens themselves to be worthy of a sequel that I am eager to see. Far from ruining the previous two good Alien movies, I think Prometheus deepens them. Alien was gothic suspense in space, Aliens was military SF, Prometheus was high concept sci fi, with all the other elements thrown in.

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We rarely agree on so many things and yet here we seem to. Yes, the film is imperfect yet it still manages to work for me.

A few days ago I watched TDKR for only the second time since its in theatre. Today or this evening I think I'll get around to rewatching Prometheus. I actually liked TDKR a bit better than when I first saw it (as I mentioned upthread) so I'll see if my opinion of Prometheus changes after a second viewing.

I have seen ST09 twice. The first time was when a coworker lent me a download. The quality (of the download) wasn't great, but it allowed me to see the film. The second time about a year or so later another coworker lent me his dvd copy. The improved viewing and audio quality did nothing to make me like the film any better.
Here's an example of ST09's influence...a friend's girlfriend was not a huge SF fan, doubt she's ever watched a ST movie at all, but she watched ST09 on her own one night on DVD and she's watched it TEN times since...she loves the movie. This is the market expansion for the next one...add her to the BO take and Bluray...at the same time it creates a positive feeling for Trek.
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Old January 3 2013, 11:47 PM   #74
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^^ Goodie for her.
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Old January 4 2013, 12:24 AM   #75
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^^ Goodie for her.
Let's say hypothetically that you're not a fan of ST09 (it's hard to tell, because you're so ambiguous about your feelings on the movie that you might secretly love it ); okay, that's fine, so you don't have to watch the movies. But why would you also look down on the impact they have on keeping the franchise as a whole alive?

The best chance to ever get another Trek TV show or movie you like short of time traveling to the past is for the franchise to continue to be a success and to spawn new movies and series. They may not be something you like initially, but they possibly could be in the future, because you don't know who will be involved in running things later on. Would you seriously rather have the entire franchise die out in terms of making new film and TV projects at all just because you didn't like the current stuff? Even if you hate ST09, you should appreciate that it helps keep the franchise afloat and not be upset by the fact that it has attracted new fans and give smarmy replies as a result.
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