The Walking Dead renewed for season 4/Glen Mazzara out - Page 3

Jax · December 31 2012, 05:30 PM

WHY am I reading AMC wants to cut the budget? the show is the biggest show in U.S cable history and god knows how well it also does around the world.

Tom · December 31 2012, 08:16 PM

...And, their cost for a 30 second ad is only second to the Super Bowl.

bigdaddy · January 1 2013, 07:11 AM

Jax wrote:

WHY am I reading AMC wants to cut the budget? the show is the biggest show in U.S cable history and god knows how well it also does around the world.

AMC was seen as the network for great shows, kind of like how HBO was several years back. It's now know that was't due to planning, but pure luck. The network will be dying a slow death because if I was a writer I wouldn't send my projects to a network that treats hits as poorly as AMC does. They have become a joke.

Snaploud · January 1 2013, 07:25 AM

bigdaddy wrote:

AMC was seen as the network for great shows, kind of like how HBO was several years back. It's now know that was't due to planning, but pure luck.

There may be different skill-sets at work. It may be that they really are great at choosing show concepts and picking decent creative teams. They just have a mental block when it comes to recognizing the importance of keeping those creative teams happy and stable long-term. It could also be a different set of executives choosing the shows from the ones negotiating the day-to-day expenses and year-to-year contracts.

Another explanation is that they got screwed in their negotiations over Mad Men and that the whole network is on a death spiral as a result (higher costs on one show leading to a a penny-saving mentality for other shows).

bigdaddy · January 1 2013, 06:08 PM

They get 11 million viewers a week for Walking Dead, there is no excuse for budget cuts to that show. The show has to be printing money for them, even if the show cost 5 million an episode. There are no excuses for their stupidity.

the G-man · January 1 2013, 07:21 PM

Is there confirmation Mazzara's out because of budget issues? I've also heard that he's out because of conflicts with Kirkman.

Enterprise is Great · January 1 2013, 10:43 PM

It may be budgetary because at one time AMC wanted less expensive location shooting and wanted lots of episodes filmed on standing sets which would've meant our character wuld be holed up in buildings for large segments of the show.

Snaploud · January 1 2013, 11:27 PM

I'm sure the budget had something to do with it. Of course, it's questionable whether or not the proposed budget cuts were necessary or just a means of inflating profits.

I'm curious about any disagreements with Kirkman, though. Feel free to post a link.

Cutter John · January 1 2013, 11:44 PM

You can pretty much see where this is headed. They'll burn through all the available showrunning talent (who'll put up with their crap) in a couple more years, and end up putting someones cousin in charge. Storyline will suck, ratings will tank, and that'll be that.

Dream · January 1 2013, 11:58 PM

Enterprise is Great wrote:

It may be budgetary because at one time AMC wanted less expensive location shooting and wanted lots of episodes filmed on standing sets which would've meant our character wuld be holed up in buildings for large segments of the show.

That's pretty been what has been happening this season with the cast being stuck in the Prison and Woodbury. We have had barely any outdoor location shooting.

AMC will only be happy if all the entire show took place inside a giant cardboard box.

the G-man · January 2 2013, 02:16 AM

That's pretty been what has been happening this season with the cast being stuck in the Prison and Woodbury. We have had barely any outdoor location shooting.

But the original comic book series was also set at the prison and Woodbury at this point in the story.

Kestrel · January 2 2013, 08:07 AM

If it's (most likely) just AMC dicking around, wanting to cut budgets etc, then fuck them.

However, on the off-chance there was conflict with Kirkman, then Kirkman is far, far more important.

Takeru · January 2 2013, 06:15 PM

Kestrel wrote:

However, on the off-chance there was conflict with Kirkman, then Kirkman is far, far more important.

Why? He writes the source material, but he's not an experienced tv writer or show runner, it there's conflict Kirkman should be kicked off the show.

December 31 2012, 05:30 PM	#31
Jax Admiral Location: The United Kingdom of Great Britain & Northern Ireland	Re: The Walking Dead renewed for season 4/Glen Mazzara out WHY am I reading AMC wants to cut the budget? the show is the biggest show in U.S cable history and god knows how well it also does around the world. __________________ Brave (B) Great & Powerful Oz (B-) Hunger Games (B-) American Reunion (B) Milk (B-) The Insider (B+) The Rainmaker (B-) God Bless America (B-) It's Kind of a Funny Story (B-) Iron Man 3 (B+) Star Trek Into Darkness (A-)

December 31 2012, 08:16 PM	#32
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January 1 2013, 06:08 PM	#35
bigdaddy Vice Admiral Location: Space Massachusetts	Re: The Walking Dead renewed for season 4/Glen Mazzara out They get 11 million viewers a week for Walking Dead, there is no excuse for budget cuts to that show. The show has to be printing money for them, even if the show cost 5 million an episode. There are no excuses for their stupidity. __________________ "Bqhatevwr" - Former Senator Scott Brown

January 1 2013, 07:21 PM	#36
the G-man Commodore Location: to your immediate right	Re: The Walking Dead renewed for season 4/Glen Mazzara out Is there confirmation Mazzara's out because of budget issues? I've also heard that he's out because of conflicts with Kirkman.

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January 1 2013, 11:27 PM	#38
Snaploud Admiral Location: Massachusetts, USA	Re: The Walking Dead renewed for season 4/Glen Mazzara out I'm sure the budget had something to do with it. Of course, it's questionable whether or not the proposed budget cuts were necessary or just a means of inflating profits. I'm curious about any disagreements with Kirkman, though. Feel free to post a link.

January 1 2013, 11:44 PM	#39
Cutter John Rear Admiral Location: Beyond the wall of sleep, just south of Seattle.	Re: The Walking Dead renewed for season 4/Glen Mazzara out You can pretty much see where this is headed. They'll burn through all the available showrunning talent (who'll put up with their crap) in a couple more years, and end up putting someones cousin in charge. Storyline will suck, ratings will tank, and that'll be that. __________________ "The way I see it, every life is a pile of good things and bad things. The good things don't always soften the bad things. But vice versa, the bad things don't necessarily spoil the good things or make them unimportant."

January 2 2013, 08:07 AM	#42
Kestrel Rear Admiral Location: East Tennessee	Re: The Walking Dead renewed for season 4/Glen Mazzara out If it's (most likely) just AMC dicking around, wanting to cut budgets etc, then fuck them. However, on the off-chance there was conflict with Kirkman, then Kirkman is far, far more important. __________________ "Does it ever get easy?" "You mean life?" "Yeah. Does it get easy?" "What do you want me to say?" "Lie to me."