Eccleston comments on 50th anniversary special return - Page 5

Emh · December 3 2012, 10:56 AM

Allyn Gibson wrote:

I'm surprised that there hasn't been discussion here of "The Eleven Doctors" rumor.

I saw that the other day and I immediately filed it under "fan wishful thinking."

The Mirrorball Man · December 3 2012, 11:05 AM

Elfin Mischievous Humbug wrote:

Allyn Gibson wrote:

I'm surprised that there hasn't been discussion here of "The Eleven Doctors" rumor.

I saw that the other day and I immediately filed it under "fan wishful thinking."

True, but remember that there's a fan running the show right now.

Itisnotlogical · December 3 2012, 03:49 PM

The Mirrorball Man wrote:

Elfin Mischievous Humbug wrote:

Allyn Gibson wrote:

I'm surprised that there hasn't been discussion here of "The Eleven Doctors" rumor.

I saw that the other day and I immediately filed it under "fan wishful thinking."

True, but remember that there's a fan running the show right now.

Eleven Doctors (and presumably some of their companions) is quite a lot of characters to write for. I have the feeling that if The Eleven Doctors ever came in to existence, all eleven would be cramped for dialogue, leading to unsatisfactory writing for all.

Sindatur · December 3 2012, 04:31 PM

Itisnotlogical wrote:

The Mirrorball Man wrote:

Elfin Mischievous Humbug wrote:

I saw that the other day and I immediately filed it under "fan wishful thinking."

True, but remember that there's a fan running the show right now.

Eleven Doctors (and presumably some of their companions) is quite a lot of characters to write for. I have the feeling that if The Eleven Doctors ever came in to existence, all eleven would be cramped for dialogue, leading to unsatisfactory writing for all.

Yea, it would have to be Multi-part, not a single extended episode. In a single episode (even if extended episode) anything more than 3-4 active Doctors would get crowded. The Five Doctors worked out OK because 4 was caught in Limbo. If they had tried spreading the dialogue around to all 5, I think it would've been too much

The Mirrorball Man · December 3 2012, 06:14 PM

Itisnotlogical wrote:

Eleven Doctors (and presumably some of their companions) is quite a lot of characters to write for. I have the feeling that if The Eleven Doctors ever came in to existence, all eleven would be cramped for dialogue, leading to unsatisfactory writing for all.

You're probably right. Do we have an example of a Doctor Who story with eleven major roles?

OmahaStar · December 3 2012, 09:32 PM

The Mirrorball Man wrote:

Itisnotlogical wrote:

Eleven Doctors (and presumably some of their companions) is quite a lot of characters to write for. I have the feeling that if The Eleven Doctors ever came in to existence, all eleven would be cramped for dialogue, leading to unsatisfactory writing for all.

You're probably right. Do we have an example of a Doctor Who story with eleven major roles?

11? Try 22. Every Doctor has to have at least one companion along for the ride. And then comes the question of WHICH companion to bring along.

FreddyE · December 4 2012, 12:45 PM

ReinWolf wrote:

Also Big Finish are working with AudioGo next year to do an 11 part Destiny Of The Doctor series, so it will be interesting to see who they get for the 9th release. Its the first post era 9th Doctor story regardless IIRC.

Wow...and that is really cool. How long will one part be? The standard 2:30 or the 6 h +?

As of Eccelston: I think if the paycheck is big enough, he will do it.

Lonemagpie · December 4 2012, 02:34 PM

Why is everybody assuming that a title like "The Eleven Doctors" would have such a literal meaning anyway? It's an easy way to mislead the fans if it doesn't - like, there weren't an infinite number of Doctors in The Infinity Doctors, after all...

Mytran · December 4 2012, 03:15 PM

Allyn Gibson wrote:

Samurai8472 wrote:

“Would I like to be involved? If I told you that, I’d have to shoot you”

Read that however you want.

The impression I had was that Eccleston was humoring the interviewer and telling him, without saying so directly, to move on to another subject. Which the interviewer, not picking up on the hint, didn't do.

I got this too. He answered the first question politely, then got persistently more "I don't know. I don't know. I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THIS SUBJECT" but stayed professional throughout.

He's the sort of actor that is very forward looking in his work, so I doubt that he want to do a special DW unless it really gives him something new - otherwise its just repeating old ground (from his POV). Moffat, get thinking!

The Borgified Corpse · December 5 2012, 03:28 AM

Photoman15 wrote:

The Borgified Corpse wrote:

While I suspect he may have a vague recollection of who they were and a general sense of who they were with and what it was like to be them, I think he would have forgotten anything specific. (At the very least, that's how I explain the 5th Doctor not knowing that Borusa is the traitor despite having experienced this 3 times before.)

He didn't experience this 3 times before. Each Doctor was pulled out of time so this adventure was new to all of them.

That's kinda what I was trying to say.

Steve Mollmann wrote:

This whole discussion makes me wonder why we demand reunion specials of Doctor Who and not other franchises. How come no one's pushing for Star Trek to do "The Six Captains" come 2016?

Because it feels far less likely. Doctor Who has often been far more generous in its caving in to fan-wank-y demands than Star Trek has traditionally been (Enterprise Season 4 and "Trials & Tribble-ations" notwithstanding).

Relayer1 wrote:

Well, I did suggest a while ago that there was a market for a TV miniseries set after the end of DS9 and Voyager, featuring some cast from the various 24th Century shows dealing with an issue that had previously cropped up in Enterprise and TOS Movie eras featuring flashback cameo's.

Yeah, a pipe dream I know...

I'd watch it. And I'd likely find it far more satisfying than the 2009 Abrams movie. (*Grumble*Stupid mass audiences.*grumble*

) They could even do a genuine Enterprise cameo by bringing in Dr. Phlox. I don't recall ever being told how long Denobulans live.

Count Zero · December 31 2012, 01:56 AM

They also have time travel which played a rather important role in Enterprise, Archer even already knows he'll be some kind of important historical figure thanks to Daniels' fanboyism, so there's no reason they can't somehow pop up in the 24th century or anytime else with the others. It's certainly possible storytelling-wise but I suppose Generations will be the closest we'll get to a multi-Captain story for a good while, yet.

Lonemagpie wrote:

Why is everybody assuming that a title like "The Eleven Doctors" would have such a literal meaning anyway? It's an easy way to mislead the fans if it doesn't - like, there weren't an infinite number of Doctors in The Infinity Doctors, after all...

Nor did we see the next Doctor in The Next Doctor.

DalekJim · December 31 2012, 02:33 AM

Eccleston has my respect regardless if he returns or not. From what I've learned he despised Russell T. Davies and Phil Collinson so now they're gone maybe he'll come back but I wouldn't hold my breath.

Lonemagpie · December 31 2012, 03:47 AM

DalekJim wrote:

Eccleston has my respect regardless if he returns or not. From what I've learned he despised Russell T. Davies and Phil Collinson so now they're gone maybe he'll come back but I wouldn't hold my breath.

No, it's Keith Boak he didn't get on with.

DalekJim · December 31 2012, 03:56 AM

Lonemagpie wrote:

No, it's Keith Boak he didn't get on with.

The issue went up to the producers, hence his quote about people "schmoozing at cocktail parties" while people on set were treated poorly.

Eccleston has repeatedly said that The Empty Child 2-parter was the best script he was given though so maybe he'd be up for returning if Moffat was behind it. Doubtful but weirder things have happened.

Emh · December 31 2012, 03:59 AM

Lonemagpie wrote:

DalekJim wrote:

Eccleston has my respect regardless if he returns or not. From what I've learned he despised Russell T. Davies and Phil Collinson so now they're gone maybe he'll come back but I wouldn't hold my breath.

No, it's Keith Boak he didn't get on with.

Not only that, but he did Doctor Who in the first place because of Russell T. Davies.

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DalekJim Fleet Captain Location: Great Britain	Re: Eccleston comments on 50th anniversary special return Eccleston has my respect regardless if he returns or not. From what I've learned he despised Russell T. Davies and Phil Collinson so now they're gone maybe he'll come back but I wouldn't hold my breath. __________________ The Paradox Machine - My blog "Four things cannot be hidden - love, smoke, a pillar of fire and a man striding across the open bled." - Dune Messiah by Frank Herbert

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