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Old December 29 2012, 01:35 PM   #106
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Re: Abrams turns Star Wars because of his "loyalty" to Trek

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For me continuity was a sign of quality.
So Sir Arthur Conan Doyle isn't a quality writer to you? because I don't think he really cared that much about it what with Watson's war wound changing every book.
He sure didn't. Nor did Aaron Sorkin give two shits if the West Wing recycled plot ideas, so long as the characters got the main focus of each episode.

Hell, Friday Night Lights completely retconned half of Season 2 because the events depicted were just too wacky, and it was (and remains) the best show on television.
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Old December 29 2012, 02:19 PM   #107
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Simon Pegg is a good actor, the problem is that Scotty just isn't written right. He's too comedic, even Pegg has said he wants the character to be more serious than he was in XI.
What works in television isn't necessarily what works in films. When you got a large ensemble cast and you want to give each and every one of the main characters their chance to stand out, some of them are going to be rewritten so that they fit a specific role within the ensemble. That means that some of them are less stoic and more humorous than in the TV series.
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Old December 29 2012, 08:14 PM   #108
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I feel out of sync, I wasn't crazy about nuTrek yet I liked Pegg's Scotty.
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Old December 29 2012, 08:27 PM   #109
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I feel out of sync, I wasn't crazy about nuTrek yet I liked Pegg's Scotty.
I wish he would have slowly been devoured by that monster chasing Kirk on Delta Vega.
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Old December 29 2012, 08:30 PM   #110
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For me continuity was a sign of quality.
So Sir Arthur Conan Doyle isn't a quality writer to you? because I don't think he really cared that much about it what with Watson's war wound changing every book.
Pretty lazy, isn't it?
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Old December 30 2012, 06:07 AM   #111
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It's possible that Abrams just thought the treatment he read was horrible.
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Old December 30 2012, 08:39 AM   #112
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So Sir Arthur Conan Doyle isn't a quality writer to you? because I don't think he really cared that much about it what with Watson's war wound changing every book.
Pretty lazy, isn't it?[/QUOTE]

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Old December 30 2012, 09:25 AM   #113
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Re: Abrams turns Star Wars because of his "loyalty" to Trek

Times have changed and continuity is far more important today than it was in the past. If Sir Arthur Conan Doyle was writing Sherlock today he would have paid far more attention to small continuity details and have included arcs connecting the various novels.
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Old December 30 2012, 02:33 PM   #114
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If Doyle were writing Sherlock Holmes today, he'd include a lot more slow motion fighting, explosions and... Uh, never mind.
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Old December 30 2012, 02:43 PM   #115
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If Sir Arthur Conan Doyle were writing Sherlock Holmes today, he would be writing novels instead of short stories. Other than that, I think it would be very similar. Crime fiction hasn't changed that much since then.
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Old December 30 2012, 04:28 PM   #116
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Times have changed and continuity is far more important today than it was in the past. If Sir Arthur Conan Doyle was writing Sherlock today he would have paid far more attention to small continuity details and have included arcs connecting the various novels.
I don't think so. It's only among obsessive nerd communities that there are people who care and there were plenty of those people back then too. Doyle killed off Holmes at one point to make a clean break, although that obviously didn't work.
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Old December 30 2012, 06:58 PM   #117
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Times have changed and continuity is far more important today than it was in the past. If Sir Arthur Conan Doyle was writing Sherlock today he would have paid far more attention to small continuity details and have included arcs connecting the various novels.
Or maybe he realized like most smart people that the readers are more interested in Holmes doing detecting and having interesting adventures than useless continuity. More continuity certainly wasn't going to turn the Blanched Soldier or the Veiled Lodger into better stories.

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Old December 30 2012, 08:16 PM   #118
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Times have changed and continuity is far more important today than it was in the past. If Sir Arthur Conan Doyle was writing Sherlock today he would have paid far more attention to small continuity details and have included arcs connecting the various novels.
Or maybe he realized like most smart people that the readers are more interested in Holmes doing detecting and having interesting adventures than useless continuity. More continuity certainly wasn't going to turn the Blanched Soldier or the Veiled Lodger into better stories.
Would more continuity have turned them into worse stories?
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Would more continuity have turned them into worse stories?
More convoluted, more difficult to get into, less accessible for new readers, less interesting to read again. Whether that's synonymous with "worse" is a matter of opinion.
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Old December 31 2012, 02:54 PM   #120
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Let's talk about continuity.
Okay.

'Continuity' is for sad lonely cunts to masturbate over while the rest of the audience has fun.

Have a great new year.
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