Garth's uniform

[Gary7]

Yeah, he would have looked much better in a standard Starfleet issue captain's uniform. IMHO...

[Timo]

If Garth is basically a 23rd Century Napoleon, again stuck on Elba, then it would make more sense that it's an old period Starfleet dress uniform.

Let's not forget that Napoleon Bonaparte derived his original popularity from the ideals of a supposed popular revolution: he was the First Citizen before becoming a full-fledged warlord and Emperor. In that sense, Garth could well be wrapping himself in the regalia of a "popular leader" - combining elements from the costumes of contemporary politicians and pop stars to meet the expectations of the adoring masses. Military decorations (the medals and medallions?) would be but a minor element there, something Garth would wear with utterly false modesty.

Well...Colonel Green and Cohrane are from around the same time. The Andromedans copied our looks, they could have copied the clothing too. Maybe they were on that planet waiting three hundred years before Kirk and crew found them?

A bit unlikely, as they would have been overwhelmed by their humanity in that time, even without Kirk and friends goading them.

Colonel Green's jumpsuit is probably another example of false modesty, unrelated to military gear exactly because Green is so indisputably a military man... Perhaps Green in a further display of modesty sent high energy broadcasts of himself to the stars, to propagate his wisdom to Earth's early colonies and exploration vessels, and the Andromedans picked up those broadcasts much like the Vega folks in Contact picked up Hitler's speeches?

Of course, "Devil in the Dark" establishes the jumpsuit fashion as contemporary, so the Andromedans could have run into just about anybody.

Timo Saloniemi

[King Daniel into Darkness]

I think it was either supposed to represent an old Starfleet dress uniform, or was a smart civillian suit Garth wore specifically because it vaguely resembled a uniform (would they allow an inmate to wear their fleet uni?)

[Timo]

We don't know whether Garth is really wearing anything. He can change his face and his clothing with fancy illusions; just because we see his real face doesn't mean we see his real clothing. He might be stark naked, or in his inmate's pajamas.

Timo Saloniemi

[jayrath]

I'm surprised that you all don't know that one silver and one gold boot is the very height of civilian fashion in the 23rd century. (It sure looks better than the trend a few years ago of having pant waists down around your butt crack, with underwear showing.)

[Wingsley]

Timo wrote:

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We don't know whether Garth is really wearing anything. He can change his face and his clothing with fancy illusions; just because we see his real face doesn't mean we see his real clothing. He might be stark naked, or in his inmate's pajamas.

Timo Saloniemi

^ This.

Kinda like Hugh Hefner?

[Timo]

Well, technically it's Lord Garth, not Emperor Garth, but as long as we're discussing his new clothes, we should probably consider the obvious.

Timo Saloniemi

[sbk1234]

King Daniel Into Darkness wrote:

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I know Garth is nucking futs when we meet him, but under his robe and crown and mismatched boots, ...

You know, he has another pair of boots just like it at home...

[Valin]

sbk1234 wrote:

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You know, he has another pair of boots just like it at home...

It is obvious to the most simpleminded that the pair at home are of an inferior breed. They are gold on the right side.

;-)

[sbk1234]

^^^^Bazinga!

[CoveTom]

Timo wrote:

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We don't know whether Garth is really wearing anything. He can change his face and his clothing with fancy illusions; just because we see his real face doesn't mean we see his real clothing. He might be stark naked, or in his inmate's pajamas.

Timo Saloniemi

Except that when Garth gets knocked out, he involuntarily changes back into his "real" form, and we see him wearing that outfit then. Seems unlikely that while unconscious, his face would automatically change back but not the illusion of his clothes.

[Timo]

Good point, and seems to settle the matter. Thanks!

Timo Saloniemi