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Old December 28 2012, 02:49 PM   #76
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Re: Amazing Spiderman #700

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It's not confusing at all if you've been reading the book and not just the spoilers
And if new people happen to show up their supposed to just go back to the back issues?

Doesn't that kind of defeat the purpose of a jumping on point?
Would you start watching an arc-based TV show halfway through the 3rd season,
Which this is not at all, this is supposed to be a point people who don't know what the heck is going on can enter in at that is what I took as the entire point of Marvel Now (aka DC is kicking our asses and we need more readers because of it) as, its not a very good jumping on point if you need to go back several issues.

Seriously why are some people having such a hard time grasping what a jumping on point means?
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Old December 28 2012, 03:04 PM   #77
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And if new people happen to show up their supposed to just go back to the back issues?

Doesn't that kind of defeat the purpose of a jumping on point?
Would you start watching an arc-based TV show halfway through the 3rd season,
Which this is not at all, this is supposed to be a point people who don't know what the heck is going on can enter in at that is what I took as the entire point of Marvel Now (aka DC is kicking our asses and we need more readers because of it) as, its not a very good jumping on point if you need to go back several issues.

Seriously why are some people having such a hard time grasping what a jumping on point means?
Nowhere does it say that this is a "jumping on point", nor is it a New 52 style reboot. It's being described as a Universe shift. I think your lack of understanding here stems from your own confusion.

Did you think Justice League Unlimited was a jumping on point for people who hadn't watched Justice League?
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Old December 28 2012, 03:18 PM   #78
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Since it will be launched as a Marvel NOW! title, Superior Spider-Man #1 should indeed serve as a "jumping on point." That was one of the purposes behind the Marvel NOW! initiative, after all.

Until any of us actually has SSM #1 in our hands and has read it, I don't think we can judge whether or not it will in fact serve as such, or if it will be incomprehensible without having read at least "Dying Wish."
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Old December 28 2012, 03:30 PM   #79
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Nothing I've read about the Marvel NOW! titles speaks to me as a jumping on point. Had Marvel gone for a full on New 52 style reboot then I'd agree, as they haven't, I don't.

Hell, most of the issues pick up directly after the closing stories of their predecessors.
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Old December 28 2012, 03:33 PM   #80
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Well, it was one of the stated purposes behind Marvel NOW!, but I don't know how well most of the titles have pulled that off. The only NOW! title that I've actually read (until SSM launches) has been All-New X-Men, which I think explained things well enough for a theoretical "new" reader to not be too confused.
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Old December 28 2012, 03:56 PM   #81
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Well, it was one of the stated purposes behind Marvel NOW!, but I don't know how well most of the titles have pulled that off. The only NOW! title that I've actually read (until SSM launches) has been All-New X-Men, which I think explained things well enough for a theoretical "new" reader to not be too confused.
Still doesn't seem to me like they were shooting for a jumping on point with this initiative. Even the synopses I've read for upcoming NOW! titles indicates that they will come with plenty of pre-existing baggage from the previous titles.
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Old December 28 2012, 04:18 PM   #82
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Just like decades worth of pre-teens did in the Before Times, just pick up whatever issue is on the stands and start reading. You'll figure it out, it's not that complex.

And no, today's books are not that much more complex than those of times past. Just more drawn out.
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Old December 28 2012, 05:01 PM   #83
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Just like decades worth of pre-teens did in the Before Times, just pick up whatever issue is on the stands and start reading. You'll figure it out, it's not that complex.
And how is that working for comics industry today?
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Old December 28 2012, 05:06 PM   #84
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I think there's some interesting story potential here over the next year or two leading up to the inevitable return of Peter Parker. However, I really, really hope Mary Jane realizes what's up and that something is wrong and gets the hell out of there. If they have Mary Jane get involved with someone masquerading as Peter Parker without her knowing it, I'm out. I find the notion extremely creepy and don't want to read about a Spider-Man that would lie to women to sleep with them.
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Old December 28 2012, 06:10 PM   #85
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I really, really hope Mary Jane realizes what's up and that something is wrong and gets the hell out of there.
If SpiderOck keeps calling her "woman," I'd hope MJ won't stick around for long.
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Old December 28 2012, 06:29 PM   #86
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Just like decades worth of pre-teens did in the Before Times, just pick up whatever issue is on the stands and start reading. You'll figure it out, it's not that complex.
And Marvel includes a recap page at the beginning of every issue, so it really is pretty easy to grasp what's going on. I've found those recaps to be useful when jumping into a title that I hadn't read in years, or had never read at all (i.e., some of the newer titles like Avengers Academy).

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However, I really, really hope Mary Jane realizes what's up and that something is wrong and gets the hell out of there.
The solicitation for an early SSM issue (can't recall which one at the moment) states that Carlie Cooper may be close to figuring out the truth, so I'd think that the one person who knows Peter Parker the best should be able to figure it out too.
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Old December 28 2012, 06:35 PM   #87
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i'd bet the 'twist' will be that Carlie figures out something is wrong but MJ is completely oblivious.
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Old December 28 2012, 08:56 PM   #88
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It all depends, on if Otto wants the supermodel free and clear, or if he wants to juggle until everything explodes.

Otto doesn't seem like he ever pulled quality or quantity.

(Aunt May isn't quality? Well if they were the same age maybe? But he married a woman at least twice his age!)

This could be more important than saving or destroying the world.

Getting some.

Oh.

He's probably often paid for both quantity and quality.

I keep forgetting that every woman has a price.
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Old December 28 2012, 11:10 PM   #89
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Axel Alonso has commented on the whole ASM #700 thing. He pretty much confirms at the end that this is only temporary.
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Old December 28 2012, 11:52 PM   #90
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Originally Spider-Man was not announced as part of Marvel Now. Then of course we got the mysterious "Superior" teaser and thus the rest is history. Daredevil will be rebranded with the Marvel Now label as of next issue I believe but nothing is changing with that book.

Superior Spider-Man #1 is a continuation of a current story line, the "jumping on" point being that there is now a "new" character in the role of Spider-Man and old fans and new fans alike can follow Otto's journey of redemption (Slott used those words in a recent interview), but it's not a brand new story or something like that.

Fans can start reading fresh if they so choose, or if they go back and read the trades that lead up to Superior's story. I don't see what the big deal is here. I don't recall Wacker, AA, or Slott ever saying that Superior was meant to be a "Jumping on point" those are kind of what the "Point One" issues are supposed to be for anyway.
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