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Doctor Who "Bigger on the inside..."

View Poll Results: Seriously, who the hell is she??
A long overdue family reunion - Clara's a fobwatched & regenerated Susan! 1 1.56%
The One Who Got Away - Clara's a fobwatched & regenerated Romana! 3 4.69%
'Til Death do us part? I don't think so, Sweetie - Clara's a fobwatched & regenerated post-Library River! 0 0%
She's a MAN, man - Clara's a fobwatched & regenerated Master! 0 0%
If at first you don't succeed... - Clara's the ultimate Anti-Doctor weapon of the Silence, Mark II! 3 4.69%
A sneak preview of things to come - Clara's a Watcher, but WILL BE the Twelfth Doctor! 0 0%
Hello again - Clara's a fobwatched, future (post-Doctor) version of Sexy! 2 3.13%
Eye See You - Clara's Prisoner Zero! 0 0%
You'll never see it coming - None of the above, and even stranger than all! 56 87.50%
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Old December 27 2012, 10:13 PM   #31
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Re: The Impossible Girl: Who IS Clara Oswin Oswald?!?

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Besides, it's just so unimaginative to assume she's just something we've already seen. True, Moffat does return to the same wells rather often, but for now I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and believe he's come up with something less obvious.
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I'm beginning to wonder if Clara might be what the universe does without the Doctor. He's going to lengths to unmake himself, and the void that was the Doctor must be filled. As the Master said, "A universe without the Doctor scarcely bears thinking of."
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Old December 27 2012, 10:33 PM   #32
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Maybe she has something to do with the Doctor. Some as of yet unseen link. I can't help thinking we'll see her die 9 more times. But next year being the 50th anniversary I get the feeling the Moff has set her up with that in mind.
You mean that with eight episodes to go and then a special, the latter will involve "the fall of the eleventh" iteration of Clara? Intriguing, but sounds gloomy and fatalistic. It would mean nearly a year of Greek tragedy for the show.

Others have pointed out that her birth date is November 23rd and that she died at the age of 26, so her life kind of reflects the show's first run in a metatextual sense.
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Old December 27 2012, 11:12 PM   #33
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Remember when Donna had to make sure she died in that car crash?, perhaps Clara has to do the same either to undo the doctors mess or perhaps change the future.

What ever happens we will all be guessing right up to the big reveal.

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Old December 27 2012, 11:37 PM   #34
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She's my future wife and that's all that matters.

Though having to watch her die over and over might be a bit of a turn-off.
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Old December 27 2012, 11:38 PM   #35
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Maybe she has something to do with the Doctor. Some as of yet unseen link. I can't help thinking we'll see her die 9 more times. But next year being the 50th anniversary I get the feeling the Moff has set her up with that in mind.
You mean that with eight episodes to go and then a special, the latter will involve "the fall of the eleventh" iteration of Clara? Intriguing, but sounds gloomy and fatalistic. It would mean nearly a year of Greek tragedy for the show.
I find this idea very intriguing. However, while Clara dying at the end of every episode would be super annoying, I think even more annoying would be the Doctor having to meet her again and again at the beginning of every episode.
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Old December 27 2012, 11:41 PM   #36
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Remember the Moff gets some of his ideas from forums like this
He does not. He gets them off a lorry in Brixton. He pays five quid a load.
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Old December 27 2012, 11:44 PM   #37
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I doubt Moffat would come near this place. Does he even like Trek?

He originally wanted The Doctor to bash it during The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances.
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Old December 28 2012, 12:36 AM   #38
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She is the overcomplicated story-arc for the next year or two that will be resolved with a mess of fanwank and/or dismissed with a TARDIS-load of nonsensical timey-wimey bullshit. I can overlook such things though, because she is goddamn adorable.
I think this is about right. I suspect it's just the year's plot (the only one that spanned more than a year is River and that's because she didn't appear every episode).

Anyway, I suspect the answer is none of the above and involves some kind of splitting in time. My guess is modern day Clara is first and whatever happens happens later. Basically, they are echoes in time created by something. But I'm not really going to think about it, I'm fine just enjoying the ride.

As for Clara dying in each episode. It's an intriguing idea, but would get old quickly. The episodes aren't long enough to have to introduce her as a companion each time. And, while she may have some vague notion of herself in other timelines, she doesn't seem to remember everything.
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Old December 28 2012, 12:43 AM   #39
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It could be that the Clara we met at the end of the episode is going to be the companion Clara, and she and the Doctor will be seeking out other Claras (Clarae?) elsewhere in history. Maybe she's fragmented through time like Scaroth in "City of Death," and they need to merge her with all her other selves (those who survive, anyway).
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Old December 28 2012, 01:56 AM   #40
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It could be that the Clara we met at the end of the episode is going to be the companion Clara, and she and the Doctor will be seeking out other Claras (Clarae?) elsewhere in history. Maybe she's fragmented through time like Scaroth in "City of Death," and they need to merge her with all her other selves (those who survive, anyway).
Yea, I'm currently expecting it'll be some variant along those lines
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Old December 28 2012, 01:58 AM   #41
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I'm sure there's probably a clue somewhere in the upcoming episodes. We know there's one where they travel to the heart of the TARDIS, so maybe that's when she gets split off into three different time streams.
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Old December 28 2012, 02:27 AM   #42
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I know she isn't, but I rather wish she was a fob watched Romana, because she'd make a great incarnation of the character.
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Old December 28 2012, 02:41 AM   #43
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I really hope she isn't a returning character because that will complicate things even further than Moffat usually does. I'd much rather she were bait for the Doctor, or some kind of shattered existence caused by later events of the original modern day incarnation, or something of that sort. I just don't see any benefit in making her a timelord or a projection of the TARDIS or whatever else any more than River benefited from being turned into a timeheaded child of his companion.
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Old December 28 2012, 02:43 AM   #44
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I don't see any benefit of making her a past character, but I also don't see any benefit of making her a plant or weapon of some kind - that's too derivative of River and it would just make the Doctor even more tragic.
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Old December 28 2012, 02:45 AM   #45
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My guess is The Doctor is going to find more versions of Clara only for them to die. The Doctor becomes so grief stricken at loosing companion after companion that he finally turns mad. He tries all sorts of ways to revive her and somehow ends up creating so many duplicate copies of her all across space and time that he is eventually bound to bump into one sooner or later, which is what his younger self bumped into.
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