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Old December 27 2012, 02:01 AM   #16
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Re: Would You Be Ok With Khan Being A CGI Ricardo Montalban?

Would I be happy with a CGI Montalban?...

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Old December 27 2012, 02:02 AM   #17
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This is a rumor over at TrekMovie that was started by a presumed production assistant with IDM Comics that created a heated discussion about it.
Is there a link to this?
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Old December 27 2012, 02:32 AM   #18
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This is a rumor over at TrekMovie that was started by a presumed production assistant with IDM Comics that created a heated discussion about it.
Is there a link to this?
It's not true. . . just some overzealous Khan fanbois latching onto a theory that supports their Khan-centric view of the movie. . .

in comment 114. of this thread someone named Gilberto claimed that Khan would be CGI. . . in comment 117, someone noticed that there is a Gilberto who is a production assistant at IDW, and it snowballed from there. . .

In this thread everyone who blithely assumed that Gilberto was from IDW was forced to eat crow when it was proven that he really is just Gilberto from Rio de Janeiro who was just pulling theories out of his behind like every other trek fan who has seen the trailers. . .see specifically comment 162.

Nothing to see here. . .

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Old December 27 2012, 02:42 AM   #19
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Sweet baby Jebus ... no!
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Old December 27 2012, 02:45 AM   #20
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Maybe if we can get some of Ricardo Montalbans DNA (off a hair brush?) and some Temporal RNA we can create a clone which will undergo rapid ageing that could be ready in time for a third Trek movie?
Make sure you do some rewriting to enhance the chest area.
Oh god, 900 more threads about whether Ricardo Montalban's boobs are fake (in the original they're real, and they're magnificent) only this time they're actually CG titties. The mass confusion and anger between those saying real or fake or both will tear Trek fandom apart.
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Old December 27 2012, 03:10 AM   #21
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Ricardo Montalban was in ridiculously good shape throughout most of his life. Hell, he still managed to look well even when he became wheelchair dependent!

IIRC, Montalban's background was in musical theatre and dance, so it's not a stretch to say that he continued the vigorous training regimes of those branches when he became a film and television actor, perhaps out of habit. There have been many 60+ year old actors like Harrison Ford and Sean Connery for example. who remain in great physical shape. The Montalban "chest" conspiracy has always sounded pretty odd.

As for a "CGI Montalban", it could be done for a brief cameo but not for a whole movie. To pull it off, they'd need to find a actor or stunt man, who is similar to Montalban in stature along with re-using footage and audio from "Space Seed", maybe even from TWOK too. The best result would probably be similar to the T-800 models (CGI is used to create Arnold Schwarzenegger's likeness) seen in Terminator Salvation. They can't do what they did with Jeff Bridges (real-time motion capture and CGI) because Montalban is no longer alive, sadly.
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Old December 27 2012, 03:18 AM   #22
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To pull it off, they'd need to find a actor or stunt man, who is similar to Montalban in stature.


Same Adam's Apple and everything.
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Old December 27 2012, 03:20 AM   #23
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To pull it off, they'd need to find a actor or stunt man, who is similar to Montalban in stature.


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Old December 27 2012, 03:28 AM   #24
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Maybe if we can get some of Ricardo Montalbans DNA (off a hair brush?) and some Temporal RNA we can create a clone which will undergo rapid ageing that could be ready in time for a third Trek movie?
Make sure you do some rewriting to enhance the chest area.
Oh god, 900 more threads about whether Ricardo Montalban's boobs are fake (in the original they're real, and they're magnificent) only this time they're actually CG titties. The mass confusion and anger between those saying real or fake or both will tear Trek fandom apart.
What if...

What if the role of Khan were to be portrayed by Ricardo Montalban's CGI pecs alone?
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Old December 27 2012, 03:34 AM   #25
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Re: Would You Be Ok With Khan Being A CGI Ricardo Montalban?

If he was in the background of a scene or flashback or something- fine.

Otherwise, hire an actor.
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Old December 27 2012, 03:42 AM   #26
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Khan as CGI? Nah. Dr. Helen Noel?
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Old December 27 2012, 04:06 AM   #27
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Make sure you do some rewriting to enhance the chest area.
Oh god, 900 more threads about whether Ricardo Montalban's boobs are fake (in the original they're real, and they're magnificent) only this time they're actually CG titties. The mass confusion and anger between those saying real or fake or both will tear Trek fandom apart.
What if...

What if the role of Khan were to be portrayed by Ricardo Montalban's CGI pecs alone?

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You know how after Oliver Reed died during the making of Gladiator, they just CGI'd his face onto some other guy? Same deal, except where the face should be, you get Mr. Roarke and Tattoo (That's what he calls them, you see --one's slightly larger than the other).
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Old December 27 2012, 04:55 AM   #28
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You know how after Oliver Reed died during the making of Gladiator, they just CGI'd his face onto some other guy?
Only in a couple of scenes, and they had to keep it dark or have him behind a gate or something to hide the seams. It certainly couldn't have worked for the full film.
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Old December 27 2012, 05:04 AM   #29
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You know how after Oliver Reed died during the making of Gladiator, they just CGI'd his face onto some other guy? Same deal, except where the face should be, you get Mr. Roarke and Tattoo (That's what he calls them, you see --one's slightly larger than the other).
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Old December 27 2012, 06:26 AM   #30
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You know how after Oliver Reed died during the making of Gladiator, they just CGI'd his face onto some other guy?
Only in a couple of scenes, and they had to keep it dark or have him behind a gate or something to hide the seams. It certainly couldn't have worked for the full film.
Oh darn, and I was totally serious about the whole Khan's boobs on someone else's face thing, too.
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