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Old December 26 2012, 01:35 AM   #46
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So, it's the big bang theory?
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Old December 26 2012, 02:17 AM   #47
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So, it's the big bang theory?
Oh no. Their gags were never funny. Trek on the other hand...
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Old December 26 2012, 07:05 AM   #48
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How about Star Trek 2-4.. Spock gets killed, brought back to live, saves whales.. Kirk dealing with old age in pretty much all of them.. How about every super villain Kirk has fought in every film? How about Picard dealing with his loneliness and solitude being a ship captain? I could go on and on. I know nothing about the plot of this film so I can't conclude that the plot is the same as the 2009 film. Maybe you've already seen the film and can make that conclusion? And yes, of course you're being petty. Extremely. Carry on.
Have you even seen the first ten films? Based on your description above, I'd say no. Might want to correct that before coming into a discussion that involves them...

TMP - Searching for its creator.
TWOK - Bad guy with an axe to grind who acquires the ability to make a big bang.
TSfS - Bad guy trying to acquire weapon for his government.
TVH - Probe comes looking for whales.
TFF - Spock's brother searching for God.
TUC - Conspiracy flick with the two sides working together so they can continue to hate each other.

Need I go on?
Oh do go on. It's fairly obvious where you stand on the matter. I've been a fan since the original show was on TV, so you're not going to sway me with your condescending attitude about how I somehow don't understand Star Trek the way you do. Every incarnation of Star Trek has brought something new to the table and we'll see what Abrams brings to the table on this outing, now that the introduction has been taken care of. You see, this is a CONTINUATION of the first film. That's how a sequel works, so of course they're going to pick up on threads about Kirk and Spock as characters, just as they did with the series of films 30-odd years ago. You can sit this one out if you're not interested...But to say that they didn't continue storylines across the six films is ignorant at best.
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Old December 26 2012, 12:58 PM   #49
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It's not about Abrams. It's about recentness.
I started watching TOS back in 1975 and it is my favorite series. I watched Encounter at Farpoint three times the weekend it premiered back in 1987, saw Star Trek 2009 twice the weekend it opened, twice more in the theater during its run and have seen in several times after it was out of theaters since I own the film on Blu-ray.

My feelings about films have nothing to do with who makes them or if they're new. Why must people always try to assign ulterior motives whenever someone has concerns about something new coming out or points out flaws in something that has just come out?

My feelings towards the current films would be the same whether it was J.J. Abrams, Rick Berman or Gene Roddenberry making them. I would have the same concerns about a plot, that seemingly, copies the last two films plot in broad strokes. What I state is simply my opinion and can change when the film comes out.
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Old December 26 2012, 03:05 PM   #50
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All of this nonsense about whether the movie is too this or not enough that is beside the point if you've seen the first nine minutes.

I have. Despite the "villain" making only a token appearance, it's already better than most previous Star Trek movies. Of course it's going to be a huge success, and a reaffirmation to Paramount that they're taking the right approach to Star Trek now.

If you've seen that material and you don't like it, of course, you may as well go ahead and focus on things other than this movie, because it's gonna be like that.

Next.
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Old December 26 2012, 11:58 PM   #51
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I'm kinda hoping old Spock is the one who saves young Spock.
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Old December 27 2012, 06:19 PM   #52
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I'm kinda hoping old Spock is the one who saves young Spock.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's a cop-out and will not happen.
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Old December 29 2012, 01:47 AM   #53
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His name is John Harrison and he is sort of an average – that is what makes him so scary – he is just an average guy who works in an organization called Starfleet, and he turns against the group because he has got this back-story and this kind of amazing secret agenda. After two very violent attacks, one in London and one in the US, our characters have to go after this guy and apprehend him. And it is a far more complicated and difficult thing then they ever anticipated.
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He’s sort of superhuman, pretty much unbeatable. Brainy and brawny. He manipulates situations. He’s incarcerated when Kirk is talking to him and yet he still gets Kirk to do his owrk for him. He pushes him into a corner where the only route to salvation is cooperation. There is a real Hannibal Lector quality to him.
Oh yeah, let me guess. They catch him, and then he's in his cell and it turns out he actually wanted to get caught in his evil plan, and THEN things turn really ugly and he escapes again.
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Old December 29 2012, 02:06 AM   #54
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His name is John Harrison and he is sort of an average – that is what makes him so scary – he is just an average guy who works in an organization called Starfleet, and he turns against the group because he has got this back-story and this kind of amazing secret agenda. After two very violent attacks, one in London and one in the US, our characters have to go after this guy and apprehend him. And it is a far more complicated and difficult thing then they ever anticipated.
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He’s sort of superhuman, pretty much unbeatable. Brainy and brawny. He manipulates situations. He’s incarcerated when Kirk is talking to him and yet he still gets Kirk to do his owrk for him. He pushes him into a corner where the only route to salvation is cooperation. There is a real Hannibal Lector quality to him.
Oh yeah, let me guess. They catch him, and then he's in his cell and it turns out he actually wanted to get caught in his evil plan, and THEN things turn really ugly and he escapes again.
So?
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Old December 29 2012, 08:23 AM   #55
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Seems they've based the story somewhat on Prime Directive by Judith and Garfield Reeves-Stevens, one of the best Trek novels ever.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_D...tar_Trek_novel)
agreed on that one being one of the best Trek novels.
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Old December 30 2012, 06:14 AM   #56
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His name is John Harrison and he is sort of an average – that is what makes him so scary – he is just an average guy who works in an organization called Starfleet, and he turns against the group because he has got this back-story and this kind of amazing secret agenda. After two very violent attacks, one in London and one in the US, our characters have to go after this guy and apprehend him. And it is a far more complicated and difficult thing then they ever anticipated.
Cumberbatch wrote:
He’s sort of superhuman, pretty much unbeatable. Brainy and brawny. He manipulates situations. He’s incarcerated when Kirk is talking to him and yet he still gets Kirk to do his owrk for him. He pushes him into a corner where the only route to salvation is cooperation. There is a real Hannibal Lector quality to him.
Oh yeah, let me guess. They catch him, and then he's in his cell and it turns out he actually wanted to get caught in his evil plan, and THEN things turn really ugly and he escapes again.
I was sort of hoping he'd commandeer the Enterprise and attack San Fransisco with it, but that'll never happen.
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Old January 3 2013, 08:02 PM   #57
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High quality versions of the Empire photos


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Old January 3 2013, 08:42 PM   #58
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They're really doing this less than a year after he takes command? It's disappointing...
I'd rather see the character growth and the see chemistry among the characters begin to gel for myself.
I don't want that growth and gelling to have already happened off-screen, between movies. I want to be a witness to it.
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Old January 3 2013, 10:11 PM   #59
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Thanks for posting the better pics, Salvor. I missed Scotty wearing his Starfleet ring in the lower resolution pictures.
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Old January 9 2013, 03:13 PM   #60
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Not from Empire but I didn't want to start a new thread...from the post production process of the movie at Bad Robot headquarters.



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