The Snowmen Grading and Discussion Thread

Emh · December 25 2012, 05:25 AM

Merry Christmas, everyone!

Christmas Eve 1892 and the falling snow is the stuff of fairy-tales. When the fairy-tale becomes a nightmare and a chilling menace threatens Earth, an unorthodox young governess, Clara, calls on the Doctor for help. But the Doctor is in mourning, reclusive and determined not to engage in the problems of the universe. As old friends return, will the Doctor really abandon humankind or will he fight to save the world – and Christmas – from the icy clutches of this mysterious menace.

The Great Detective prequel:

Vastra Investigates prequel

Trailer:

Unfortunately, I probably won't be able to see this for a couple of days. I fly back to Japan extra early on the morning after Christmas and it's a very long flight. See you on the flip side!

Ar-Pharazon · December 25 2012, 05:18 PM

I'm glad you put up both prequels, I hadn't seen the Vastra Investigates one. The cop was more freaked out by the two women in love than the reptile comment or the "Turkish gentleman"

About 9 hours to wait here.

Lonemagpie · December 25 2012, 05:59 PM

Ar-Festivus wrote:

I'm glad you put up both prequels, I hadn't seen the Vastra Investigates one. The cop was more freaked out by the two women in love than the reptile comment or the "Turkish gentleman"

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Yep, appalling sledgehammer lecturing there.

Anybody notice in the "Great Detective" one that the music is almost identical to the mood music in Web Of Fear episode 1?

tomalak301 · December 25 2012, 06:17 PM

Really looking forward to this for various reasons: It's Doctor Who, the new stuff (Control Room and Theme) and we finally get to see more of Jenna Louis Coleman, who I think is the most attractive of the new who companions right now. I really want to love her character.

Emh · December 25 2012, 06:20 PM

tomalak301 wrote:

Really looking forward to this for various reasons: It's Doctor Who, the new stuff (Control Room and Theme) and we finally get to see more of Jenna Louis Coleman, who I think is the most attractive of the new who companions right now. I really want to love her character.

All of this (although I think Coleman and Gillan are neck-to-neck on the attractive level), plus Richard E. Grant is finally on Doctor Who properly after two unofficial appearances AND Ian McKellan voicing the snowmen (although it's a pity he's not appearing in person).

JoeZhang · December 25 2012, 06:25 PM

I thought that Tardis door opening thing at the start looked cheap.

Peacemaker · December 25 2012, 07:09 PM

Starts countdown to the time the new title sequence is on Youtube. Will it make it there before The Snowmen airs in the US? Sets clock - Gentlemen, start your TARDISes!

MacLeod · December 25 2012, 07:15 PM

Much more enjoyable than last years, Christmas episode.

As for the main titles music is better than the last version, still not as good as the 9th-10th era one. And yes the face was back in the credits.

Relayer1 · December 25 2012, 07:26 PM

Music great (shades of the 'classic' arrangement), titles better (again a 'nod' to past versions) and the best Tardis interior since it came back. Loved the episode too.

Are they going all Southpark ? 'Oh My God They Killed Clara' every episode...

VDCNI · December 25 2012, 07:28 PM

I enjoyed it and Clara is great and a huge improvement on Amy but I could really do without the mystery surrounding her character. Why does Moffat feel the need to do this again.

Relayer1 · December 25 2012, 07:45 PM

VDCNI wrote:

I enjoyed it and Clara is great and a huge improvement on Amy but I could really do without the mystery surrounding her character. Why does Moffat feel the need to do this again.

I wouldn't go that far - the gorgeous Karen Gillan is an impossible act to follow, but the new girl certainly has something...

MacLeod · December 25 2012, 07:50 PM

Jenna Louise Coleman is also a very attractive lady.

Peacemaker · December 25 2012, 07:51 PM

Do her legs go all the way up?

zarkon · December 25 2012, 07:58 PM

Well it was ok, biut nothing special. The cloud exterior and new interior of the tardis was cool. The main adventure was pretty good until the weak finale.

I hope the "mystery" is solved soon, this is a road Moffat has only just tread with amy - following it again STRAIGHT AWAY isn't something I particularly want to watch.

And hey, the great intelligence! Another old-who return to look forward to, it seems.

ROBE · December 25 2012, 07:58 PM

Oh my God! They killed Clara. You b*st*rds!

View Poll Results: How do you rate The Snowmen?
God bless us, every one! (Fantastic)	63	45.65%
Full of Christmas cheer (Very Good)	45	32.61%
Not a classic, but jolly good fun (Good)	24	17.39%
Not enough Robot Santas (Fair)	3	2.17%
Bah humbug! (Terrible)	3	2.17%
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December 25 2012, 05:18 PM	#2
Ar-Pharazon Admiral of the Rear	Re: The Snowmen Grading and Discussion Thread I'm glad you put up both prequels, I hadn't seen the Vastra Investigates one. The cop was more freaked out by the two women in love than the reptile comment or the "Turkish gentleman" About 9 hours to wait here. __________________ Rimmer, on what period of history to live in- “Well, It’d be the 19th century for me, one of Napoleon’s marshals. The chance to march across Europe with the greatest general of all time and kill Belgians” - (White Hole).

December 25 2012, 06:17 PM	#4
tomalak301 Admiral Location: Bay Area, CA	Re: The Snowmen Grading and Discussion Thread Really looking forward to this for various reasons: It's Doctor Who, the new stuff (Control Room and Theme) and we finally get to see more of Jenna Louis Coleman, who I think is the most attractive of the new who companions right now. I really want to love her character. __________________ Twitter

December 25 2012, 06:25 PM	#6
JoeZhang Rear Admiral	Re: The Snowmen Grading and Discussion Thread I thought that Tardis door opening thing at the start looked cheap.

December 25 2012, 07:09 PM	#7
Peacemaker Vice Admiral Location: Time Vortex	Re: The Snowmen Grading and Discussion Thread Starts countdown to the time the new title sequence is on Youtube. Will it make it there before The Snowmen airs in the US? Sets clock - Gentlemen, start your TARDISes! __________________ Listen to my best friend's Podcast! DJ Mark Bisson Say my name, and every color illuminates!

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December 25 2012, 07:15 PM	#8
MacLeod Vice Admiral Location: Great Britain	Re: The Snowmen Grading and Discussion Thread Much more enjoyable than last years, Christmas episode. As for the main titles music is better than the last version, still not as good as the 9th-10th era one. And yes the face was back in the credits. __________________ On the continent of wild endeavour in the mountains of solace and solitude there stood the citadel of the time lords, the oldest and most mighty race in the universe looking down on the galaxies below sworn never to interfere only to watch.

December 25 2012, 07:26 PM	#9
Relayer1 Fleet Captain Location: The Black Country, England	Re: The Snowmen Grading and Discussion Thread Music great (shades of the 'classic' arrangement), titles better (again a 'nod' to past versions) and the best Tardis interior since it came back. Loved the episode too. Are they going all Southpark ? 'Oh My God They Killed Clara' every episode... __________________ Soon oh soon the light, Pass within and soothe this endless night, And wait here for you, Our reason to be here...

December 25 2012, 07:28 PM	#10
VDCNI Captain Location: London UK	Re: The Snowmen Grading and Discussion Thread I enjoyed it and Clara is great and a huge improvement on Amy but I could really do without the mystery surrounding her character. Why does Moffat feel the need to do this again.

December 25 2012, 07:50 PM	#12
MacLeod Vice Admiral Location: Great Britain	Re: The Snowmen Grading and Discussion Thread Jenna Louise Coleman is also a very attractive lady. __________________ On the continent of wild endeavour in the mountains of solace and solitude there stood the citadel of the time lords, the oldest and most mighty race in the universe looking down on the galaxies below sworn never to interfere only to watch.

December 25 2012, 07:51 PM	#13
Peacemaker Vice Admiral Location: Time Vortex	Re: The Snowmen Grading and Discussion Thread Do her legs go all the way up? __________________ Listen to my best friend's Podcast! DJ Mark Bisson Say my name, and every color illuminates!

December 25 2012, 07:58 PM	#14
zarkon Captain	Re: The Snowmen Grading and Discussion Thread Well it was ok, biut nothing special. The cloud exterior and new interior of the tardis was cool. The main adventure was pretty good until the weak finale. I hope the "mystery" is solved soon, this is a road Moffat has only just tread with amy - following it again STRAIGHT AWAY isn't something I particularly want to watch. And hey, the great intelligence! Another old-who return to look forward to, it seems. __________________ In defeat, malice. In victory, revenge.

December 25 2012, 07:58 PM	#15
ROBE Lieutenant Commander	Re: The Snowmen Grading and Discussion Thread Oh my God! They killed Clara. You bstrds!