The Five...err Four Doctors!

[Allyn Gibson]

Guy Gardener wrote:

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Did they ever release the unused script the revealed that the first doctor was really a robot working for the Daleks?

I think that was one of Robert Holmes' pitches, but I don't think it ever got past the outline.

The script I'd like to see is Dicks' first draft which was heavy on Tom Baker, written at a time when it looked like he was going to do it.

[Haggis and tatties]

I loved Bakers commentary on one of the DVD where he talks about the wax dummy they got to stand in for him, and how people at the time were prasing his acting in the five doctors and stating how well he was looking.

[Allyn Gibson]

I hadn't seen some of those pictures. Damn, do they look ghoulish!

[Emh]

I haven't seen some of those either. The bottom one with The Fifth Doctor riding K-9 is especially funny.

I, too, would like to see Dick's original draft that focused heavily on The Fourth Doctor.

[Allyn Gibson]

Elfin Mischievous Humbug wrote:

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I haven't seen some of those either. The bottom one with The Fifth Doctor riding K-9 is especially funny.

If you didn't know that was a wax mummy they're all looking and smiling at, you'd think that they were all reacting to something amusing Tom Baker had just said. Which makes it funny -- but also deeply weird.

[The Wormhole]

You know, the likeness isn't that bad. If someone showed me one of those photos and told me that really was Tom Baker I'd probably say "that's one hell of a sun tan he's got."

[Emh]

Huh, I just noticed Pertwee is kissing Baker's wax hand.

[Relayer1]

Toms Website used to sell signed DVDs (it might still do) but it had a note that The Five Doctors was in fact signed by Toms waxwork...

[Guy Gardener]

So why didn't Lalla sign up?

Or was she still married to Tom at that point?

[Iamnotspock]

Guy Gardener wrote:

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So why didn't Lalla sign up?

Or was she still married to Tom at that point?

They weren't still married, no. Was she even approached? If the Shada footage was the only chance they had to incorporate Tom, then it made sense to relegate Lalla to that too, rather than complicate things by having Romana arrive in the Death Zone rather than getting stuck in the time eddy also.

[Brendan Moody]

When "The Five Doctors" was first being devised, Ward and Baker were still a couple, and the hope was that they would appear together. Then after their break-up, Ward's involvement was set aside and the plan was for Baker to appear with Lis Sladen. Then Baker dropped out, and the existing cast was re-organized. In the early script Allyn mentioned above, it was the fourth Doctor and Sarah Jane who went to Gallifrey, investigated, and discovered Borusa's villainy (with a brief tease that the fourth Doctor himself might be the villain), while the second (with Jamie), third (with the Brigadier), and fifth (with Tegan) Doctors were the ones who used the three entrances of the tower, and the first Doctor stayed in the TARDIS with Susan and Turlough. Then Baker quit and Frazer Hines turned out to be too busy with Emmerdale Farm for a full role, so things were shuffled to the version we got.

[Guy Gardener]

It's 30 years later and who's still talking about THAT SPECIFIC week of Emmadale Farm?

Who would you pair Jamie up for romantic tryst with?

Tegan or Sarah Jane?

(Susan was still married. According to the novelization, she'd just popped out to the go to the supermarket when the time scoop got her.)

[Count Zero]

Elfin Mischievous Humbug wrote:

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Huh, I just noticed Pertwee is kissing Baker's wax hand.

Yeah, that always makes me smile.

[Nick Ryder]

It is pretty funny - but I have to admit - the original Doctors, with the exception of the Fifth Doctor - were not exactly the most handsome lookin' guys on the block. Although Baker does strike me as having that kind of Robert Plant quality.

But that's hilarious with them posing with a wax dummy.

I'd still love to see all the remaining living Doctors all get together - even if it's just a promo thing - still be kinda neat.

[The Borgified Corpse]

It's 30 years later and who's still talking about THAT SPECIFIC week of Emmadale Farm?

[Shatner]FFFFFAAAAAAAAARRRRRMMMMMM!!!!!!!![/Shatner]

The Wormhole wrote:

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Yeah, at this point Smith has consolidated himself in the role enough that they can bring back David Tennant or Tom Baker or whoever and not worry about them overshadowing him.

Tom Baker has enough height and girth to overshadow anyone!

Emh wrote:

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I, too, would like to see Dick's original draft that focused heavily on The Fourth Doctor.

It certainly sounds interesting. I'd especially like to see how things would have turned out differently with the 2nd/Jamie & 3rd/Brigadier pairings. (Wasn't Jo Grant originally supposed to be with the 3rd Doctor as well?) But would the 4th Doctor really have ended up with that much more screen time than what Davison ended up with in the final version? Often, when I watch Davison in those scenes, I can totally hear Tom Baker saying the lines. ("Kinda" is another Davison story that was originally written for Tom Baker. It's an interesting exercise in contrasts between the two Doctors. Davison gives sincere, pointed line readings to lines that Tom Baker would have thrown away in an endless stream of facetiousness.)