Season TWO OFFICIAL TNG Blu-Ray Discussion Thread

[Trekker4747]

If you're freeze-framing single images in an episode and then blowing them up to find errors you won't be disappointed. I bet that 98.75% of the people who watch the BDS would never notice that (or the viewscreen in "Time Squared" clipping over onto the wall.) Hell, do you know how many times I had to watch "Unification II" in order to see the reflection of a stagehand in a set decoration? Or to see the various mike stands and boom-mike dips in the series? And I've never noticed the crumpled piece of carpet/stage equipment Riker was standing on in (Where Silence has Lease?) that was cropped out for the BD.

Stop going through these episodes and scrutinizing them frame-by-frame looking for mistakes!

[throwback]

I don't have the same problem as you, Trekker 4747, in having people report these issues. I just wish that people would describe for us lay people what the issue is.

I had an issue with the planet Gravesworld. This is a screencap of the planet - http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/File:Gravesworld.jpg. When I see this image, I imagine a person focusing a flashlight beam on a globe. It looks unreal, and is very noticeable in the episode.

As for the shot of the nacelle, what is wrong with the image?

[Trekker4747]

Some of the caught problems I can understand some griping about. But when you're zooming in on a single aspect of a single frame of an episode you're getting nitpicky.

There's that shot of the Enterprise leaving orbit of a planet where the saucer cuts cut off by the "edge of the screen" even though some of the background lays beyond it. I find that shot hard to really see in the actual episode. Sure the crappy-looking 2-footer model is used and THAT is noticeable but the effects problem a little less so. Even more so the edger of the viewer cutting a bit into the wall of the ObsLounge. I mean some of these findings are a bit damn tiny and petty.

[davejames]

throwback wrote:

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I had an issue with the planet Gravesworld. This is a screencap of the planet - http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/File:Gravesworld.jpg. When I see this image, I imagine a person focusing a flashlight beam on a globe. It looks unreal, and is very noticeable in the episode.

Looks fine to me. The planet has kind of a glowy, magical feel to it, which I think was probably the intent.

[davejames]

Watched "Pen Pals," and I gotta say this ep looks amazing in HD. Especially with the Holodeck scenes in the countryside, and all the dramatic closeups of the actors. And it looks like HTV actually got the Enterprise right this time (although Sarjenka's planet is sadly a bit hazy and out of focus).

And watching this season for the first time in a while, I'm finally starting to appreciate Pulaski more as well. I remembered her always being kind of cold and unlikeable, but she actually warmed up quite a bit as the season went on. In fact her scenes and dialogue in "Icarus Factor" were probably the best part of that episode.

[davejames]

Also, a completely random thought I just had, but did we ever see any other Enterprise crewmembers with an English accent besides Picard?

I'm sure there must have been others, but I'm having a hard time remembering any. And yeah, I realize the show was filmed in LA, but in-universe it still seems odd there weren't more sprinkled throughout the ship (I'm not counting the accent Sirtis tried to hide while playing Troi, of course).

[Trekker4747]

Ummm, Picard's accent wasn't English it was, French!

[Shazam!]

Dac wrote:

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Thanks for clearing up the BoP question. My 720p TV at 50 inches isn't the sharpest thing around, and I was quite far away from the TV. I just remember the footage appearing REALLY fuzzy in one screencap we got, but it looked rather sharp and brightly lit in the episode I saw.

In the UK, they are. SyFy HD has been airing them one per day for the past couple of weeks. It surprised the hell out of me too.

And as for not buying it - the quality is a step down, I can't get it round here for as cheap as I got season one and I dont really have the money to spend on something I don't want all that much.

Season 3 on the other hand has 2 of my favorite episodes of the series (possibly all of Trek) on it, plus the trailer looks stunning. That will be a must buy.

And the channel is included with our HDTV/Tivo/Internet/Phone bundle. Considering I almost never watch anything on TV anymore, finding Season 2 airing on UK TV a mere few days after its release was a welcome shock.

Yeah, it's pretty cool. I thought I read somewhere that they were going to take a break mid-Season 2 though, repeat Season 1 and then come back to it. I'm not sure how true that is though.

I think it's great that they're airing though. I have no interest beyond watching the episodes so it was either watch them on TV or download. I'd rather the former so I can at least support the project financially in some small way.

[Salinga]

Trekker4747 wrote:

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If you're freeze-framing single images in an episode and then blowing them up to find errors you won't be disappointed.

Your logic is flawed. FAIL.

No one watches the show freeze framed and zoomed. I am watching it on a normal TV screen. Then I notice the errors.

[BriGuy]

Trekker4747 wrote:

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Some of the caught problems I can understand some griping about. But when you're zooming in on a single aspect of a single frame of an episode you're getting nitpicky.

There's that shot of the Enterprise leaving orbit of a planet where the saucer cuts cut off by the "edge of the screen" even though some of the background lays beyond it. I find that shot hard to really see in the actual episode. Sure the crappy-looking 2-footer model is used and THAT is noticeable but the effects problem a little less so. Even more so the edger of the viewer cutting a bit into the wall of the ObsLounge. I mean some of these findings are a bit damn tiny and petty.

I agree with you.

I was watching some reruns on TV and noticed the two-foot model at the end of an episode like that. Before that I thought it was just looking odd because of the remastering, or being in HD, or maybe even being a quickie CGI job. But it's the model.

[jimbotron]

throwback wrote:

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As for the shot of the nacelle, what is wrong with the image?

The blue glow of the nacelle is misaligned slightly to the right of the nacelle itself. That's a fairly common mistake in HTV's work. It pops up in several episodes.

[NewHorizon]

jimbotron wrote:

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The blue glow of the nacelle is misaligned slightly to the right of the nacelle itself. That's a fairly common mistake in HTV's work. It pops up in several episodes.

Wonder if it's due to them not bothering to correct for the distortion caused by the shrinkage of some of the film elements? Seems like it caused a lot of problems in their work.

[Trekker4747]

NewHorizon wrote:

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Wonder if it's due to them not bothering to correct for the distortion caused by the shrinkage of some of the film elements? Seems like it caused a lot of problems in their work.

It was in the pool!!!! It was in the pool!!!!

[RAMA]

Not sure why but I actually enjoyed Royale slightly more than I used to when re-watching it, can't remember the last time I watched it before that. It's still not a good episode by any stretch of the imagination, but I still liked the part where they discovered Colonel Ritchie's body the best.

RAMA

[middyseafort]

RAMA wrote:

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Not sure why but I actually enjoyed Royale slightly more than I used to when re-watching it, can't remember the last time I watched it before that. It's still not a good episode by any stretch of the imagination, but I still liked the part where they discovered Colonel Ritchie's body the best.

RAMA

That episode could've been much better had they played it more as kitsch and camp rather than dead serious as they did. However, Worf answering the phone is worth the price of admission.

WORF
She wants to know if we want room service?
RIKER
Tell her "no."
WORF (stern)
NO.
Worf slams phone.

That was priceless.