Anyone familiar with the BBC version of Sherlock Holmes? (spoilers)

[Dorian Thompson]

Sweet. Heading over to my netflix account right now. Thank you.

[Skywalker]

James Nesbitt, the star of Jekyll, is also in The Hobbit along with Freeman and Cumberbatch, playing one of the Dwarves. I'm starting to see a pattern here.

I'm glad you discovered Sherlock, it's truly an excellent series.

[Christopher]

Jekyll also features Michelle Ryan and Leverage's Gina Bellman, as well as Denis Lawson, who was Wedge Antilles in the original Star Wars trilogy.

[Dorian Thompson]

Oh bother, my netflix is glitching out this evening. I'm sure it will right itself soon enough. Pardon my ignorance since I've been working massive overtime until about 2 days ago--this Elementary--it's a BBC series or an American one? Lucy Liu as Watson? Who the hell thought that was a good idea? Turning Watson into a woman is bad enough, but to turn him into the charm free Lucy Liu? Blech.

[Guy Gardener]

I don't know if you didn't have to explain where Michelle is from because she is the most beautiful woman in the world, or because reminding us that she was the Bionic Woman makes us doubt her inner beauty which disqualifies her from being the most beautiful woman in the world.

[Allyn Gibson]

Dorian Thompson wrote:

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Pardon my ignorance since I've been working massive overtime until about 2 days ago--this Elementary--it's a BBC series or an American one?

There are two Sherlock Holmes series set in the present day.

The BBC's Sherlock (from Steven Moffat and Mark Gatiss) is set in present day London (though filmed in Cardiff) and stars Benedict Cumberbatch as Holmes and Martin Freeman as Watson.

CBS' Elementary (from Rob Doherty) is set in present day New York (and filmed there) and stars Jonny Lee Miller as Holmes and Lucy Liu as Joan Watson.

[Christopher]

Dorian Thompson wrote:

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Pardon my ignorance since I've been working massive overtime until about 2 days ago--this Elementary--it's a BBC series or an American one?

An American series, created and show-run by Robert Doherty.

Lucy Liu as Watson? Who the hell thought that was a good idea? Turning Watson into a woman is bad enough, but to turn him into the charm free Lucy Liu?

Actually it's working out very well. The show is a big hit, and its leads have good chemistry. And turning Watson into a woman is surely no worse than turning Watson into a doddering buffoon the way the Rathbone-Bruce movies did.

Guy Gardener wrote:

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I don't know if you didn't have to explain where Michelle is from because she is the most beautiful woman in the world, or because reminding us that she was the Bionic Woman makes us doubt her inner beauty which disqualifies her from being the most beautiful woman in the world.

Neither of the above. She has a wide-ranging career in film, television, and theatre, from which I assumed her name would be recognizable, and that very short-lived Bionic Woman remake from five years ago is merely a minor blip in her career, hardly worth mentioning. I'd think that even American viewers would remember her more as Nimueh in Merlin or Lady Christina in Doctor Who: "Planet of the Dead."

[Guy Gardener]

Dorian Thompson wrote:

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Oh bother, my netflix is glitching out this evening. I'm sure it will right itself soon enough. Pardon my ignorance since I've been working massive overtime until about 2 days ago--this Elementary--it's a BBC series or an American one? Lucy Liu as Watson? Who the hell thought that was a good idea? Turning Watson into a woman is bad enough, but to turn him into the charm free Lucy Liu? Blech.

CBS.

Set in New York.

Johnny Lee Miller from Trainspotting, a villain two season's ago in Dexter and fantastically Eli Stone if you like a law firm that has constant song and dance numbers... **Swoon**

Johnny is using his real accent, well, close to his real accent, he's got this aspergers thing going on, so he's an Englishman in America, recovering from Heroin addiction with the aid of his "Sober Companion" (babysitter) JOAN Watson paid for by his father, who is never seen and possibly made up by Sherlock to manipulate Watson, but constantly threatening to cut him off if he doesn't behave.

Holme's is a consultant for the NYPD.

The pilot wasn't that great, but the subsequent episodes have been very engaging and even bordering on clever... But it's still not an adequate replacement for the genuine article.

Gotta appreciate the quantity however.

[Dorian Thompson]

Ahhhh, I didn't even know this series existed. That's how little I watch network television anymore. I think I'll stick with the BBC version. Jonny Lee Miller is great, but the Watson as woman thing just doesn't work for me. Certainly not with Lucy Liu in the part. I'm thinking of trying Merlin or some other BBC offering. Maybe Justified from FX. I hear good things. I'll need a fix to hold me until Sherlock comes back. Sob.

That naked scene with Irene was great. First time Sherlock ever got flustered but he recovered. Loved how he acted just the teensiest bit jealous when Irene cast a glance John's way on the sofa and talked about smart being the new sexy....if I wanted to look at naked women I'd have taken John's laptop. Meow, meow, Sherlock. That voice of his is to die for.

[Guy Gardener]

You've convinced me to stick my Sherlock disks into my player and watch season 2 again.



You're a trend setter Dorian.

[Dorian Thompson]

I try my best.

What will John do when he's finally reunited with Sherlock...give him a hug or punch him in the face? Sob, it can't be a whole year until I find out.

[Guy Gardener]

Some of us have already been waiting a year.

Stop rubbing it in,

[Christopher]

Dorian Thompson wrote:

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...but the Watson as woman thing just doesn't work for me.

Where are you posting from, the 1960s? Why the hell would that matter?

[Dorian Thompson]

For crying out loud, it's a subjective opinion in a television thread. I'm a woman. I love female characters. I detest Lucy Liu and feel that the dynamic of the loving platonic friendship of Holmes and Watson would be undermined if one of the characters were changed to a woman. There's always the temptation of some writer to add sexual tension and so few of them do it well.

And did I mention I detest the work of Lucy Liu? There are better actresses. I'm a card carrying tree hugging liberal. It's just an opinion. Don't make me into a female misogynist because I think Watson should remain a man.

[teacake]

Sherlock is full of sexual tension and there's no woman in sight.

And yes, it's a matter of taste