Amazing Spiderman #700

[Allyn Gibson]

Hartzilla2007 wrote:

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He's been replaced by a supervillian who judging by the preview for the new series probably sucks at it.

Avenging #15.1 shows that clearly. SpiderOck has Peter's instincts and muscle memory, but Ock doesn't know how to use them, and he very nearly gets himself killed because he forgets that he's not physically Otto any more.

[Emh]

Snowjourner wrote:

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Peter and doc Ock switch bodies. Doc Ock's body dies with Peter still in it. Leaving the real Doc to go on living in Peter's body.

What the fuck? Between this and the Gwen Stacy shit from a few years ago (and One More Day), I'm so very glad I don't read Spider-Man anymore. What utter garbage.

That being said (and to get slightly back on topic), no matter how stupid the shit the writers come up with, they shouldn't get death threats because of it. Get over it, fans. If you don't like it, stop reading it. That's what I did over 15 years ago.

[hyzmarca]

It won't last. And fixing this would be a decent way to fix the marriage, too.

[Allyn Gibson]

hyzmarca wrote:

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It won't last. And fixing this would be a decent way to fix the marriage, too.

No matter what Steve Wacker says, I don't think this will be a permanent status quo. Eighteen months to two years. Probably around the time ASM2 comes out, it will be reverted.

[Admiral_Young]

Wow. Why does no one get that this is simply an ongoing story arc that has been seeded and built for the past two years since Slott's run began? This isn't like "One More Day" or "One Moment in Time" where those were one shot stories that had long lasting ramifications. "Dying Wish" is yet one aspect of this story arc, we're not even been close to the ultimate pay off of this arc. This is just one phase of a much larger story. Basically similar to when Hickman "killed" Johnny in his FF run, we learned roughly a year later that Johnny wasn't dead at all (as the media falsely reported) but instead only thought dead by Ben because naturally that was his reaction at the time given the information he had and he returned. He was actually just stuck in the Negative Zone all that time.

Peter will be back, and it will be part of the unfolding story line. Part of the fun will be HOW he will return. I don't rule out the

Golden Octobot!

just yet.

[Trekker4747]

I'm not familiar with Marvel, so this happened in the main continuity/main-stream universe (616, IIRC?) or is this different line sort of like the "Ultimate" universe being a separate one than the main one?

If so, I think I can see why fans would be pissed, but it may all unfold in some major way in the coming issues maybe even with correcting the much maligned One More Day.

[Admiral_Young]

Amazing Spider-Man #700 is 616. My guess all of these overreactions are people who have not been actually reading Slott's run and are just reacting to the spoilers (as I mentioned in the Marvel thread when we were discussing this). People who are reading have been mostly underwhelmed or are like me who have enjoyed the issues and are fascinated to see where this is all going. Then of course there are just the Slott haters, who have come out of the woodwork thanks to this.

[SiddFinch1]

Stopped reading comics a long long time ago. Not a fan of this idea but never a reason to threaten a writer over fiction. Eve. If they kill Peter you know he wont stay dead

[Hartzilla2007]

Allyn Gibson wrote:

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No matter what Steve Wacker says, I don't think this will be a permanent status quo. Eighteen months to two years. Probably around the time ASM2 comes out, it will be reverted.

Honestly I think it might be too confusing to be permanent

Really the new guy is in the old guy's body is kind of basically, seriously this has got to be the most confusing way to replace a superhero ever.

[Admiral_Young]

It's not confusing at all if you've been reading the book and not just the spoilers Also again it's part of an unfolding story. It is not permanent. Like I said, most people who have been reading Amazing have been pretty underwhelmed at this story. I admit it's not the most original thing in the world either. I just don't see the point of overreacting like most people have.

[Hartzilla2007]

Admiral_Young wrote:

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It's not confusing at all if you've been reading the book and not just the spoilers

And if new people happen to show up their supposed to just go back to the back issues?

Doesn't that kind of defeat the purpose of a jumping on point?

[Hound of UIster]

There are no new readers. All the "new reader" are just returning readers. I think they can all figure out who Dr. Octopus is.

[Admiral_Young]

^Well said.

[M'rk, son of Mogh]

It's strange that people are complaining about this as if it's the first time a hero has been temporarily replaced (does nobody remember how great Brubaker's Cap was when he replaced Steve Rogers for a time?!?)

It's just the next story, it's funny to see the people who say "I don't read comics and I'm so glad I don't because of this!" as if this was just done out of nowhere, isn't actually a fun read to most of those that are reading it and will remain this way forever.

[Guy Gardener]

Hartzilla2007 wrote:

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Honestly I think it might be too confusing to be permanent

Really the new guy is in the old guy's body is kind of basically, seriously this has got to be the most confusing way to replace a superhero ever.

More confusing than Peters Clone returning from 5 years in exile running from his other grumpier clone only to discover that he Ben Reilly is the real Peter Parker and not Peter Parker and that he is the rightful heir to the Spider-Man legacy, so Peter walks away and hands over the tights to some guy he's tricked into thinking isn't a clone?

How does this impact on May Parker, the Spider-Girl of the Future?

Are we supposed to believe now that all through her ten years of adventures that her father by her her side was and always had been Otto Octavius?