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Old December 17 2012, 02:17 AM   #1726
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Saw the caps on TrekCore so I watched 'Where Silence Has Lease' this afternoon, hard to get this one wrong because the Enterprise is darkly lit for the majority of the episode. The probe launch and CGI replacement model I can forgive, even the very noticeable matte lines, but the model element used for the Yamato was completely wrong.
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Nice catch there Mick. Even ex-astris-scientia missed it in their comparisons.
Honestly, what is it that's so "completely wrong"???
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Old December 17 2012, 02:30 AM   #1727
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Nice catch there Mick. Even ex-astris-scientia missed it in their comparisons.
Honestly, what is it that's so "completely wrong"???[/QUOTE]

They used a completely different piece of stock footage, even though the original was available and had been restored in S1.
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Old December 17 2012, 03:29 AM   #1728
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Anyway, I watched "The Dauphin" for the first time in forever, and it was just about as dull as I remembered. Although I will say Wheaton does a pretty decent job with what he's given (Wesley is still a clueless geek, but at least he's a more likeable and less obnoxious one than in the first season).

And the planet and Holodeck effects sequence looked pretty good too.

Of course the real highlight of the episode was when THIS girl came on the screen. Hummina hummina.
http://tng.trekcore.com/gallery/albu...dauphin061.jpg
Honestly, the new FX for Dauphin in the asteroid field are breathtaking. This was always on my list of top FX sequences in STNG and now even moreso.

There are still 3-4 episodes I havent watched. Must get on it!
The only thing I'm still wondering, is how exactly this is a place Wesley had visited before. Is this some kind of tourist destination or something, where you can go stand on an asteroid and listen to the harmonic frequencies for awhile?

Even in the 24th century, and with a spacesuit, it seems like that would be a pretty dangerous thing to do.
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Old December 17 2012, 04:38 AM   #1729
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Wesley was obviously lying, it was his "Hiking trip on Mt. Tibidabo" story. It apparently isn't very effective on metamorphs.

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Anyway, I watched "The Dauphin" for the first time in forever, and it was just about as dull as I remembered. Although I will say Wheaton does a pretty decent job with what he's given (Wesley is still a clueless geek, but at least he's a more likeable and less obnoxious one than in the first season).

And the planet and Holodeck effects sequence looked pretty good too.

Of course the real highlight of the episode was when THIS girl came on the screen. Hummina hummina.
http://tng.trekcore.com/gallery/albu...dauphin061.jpg
Agreed on the girl, wish we got to see more of her.

The Dauphin is sort of a lame episode. I can't say I hate it nor can I say I like it. On a watch-through I'll usually watch it, though. But, really, it's an episode about Wesley crushing on some rather average looking girl WAY out of his league. I also think he over-reacts just a bit when he finds out she's a metamorph. I mean, certainly he didn't think she was human, did he? He knew she was an alien, right? Perhaps he thought she was a humanoid alien that looked like a human and was shocked to find out she was non traditionally biological entity but he flips the fuck out over it thinking she was playing with him to be malicious?!

Loved Worf's bit though, after suggesting to woo the girl by reading her love poetry and hurling furniture around Wesley dismisses this. Worf's new suggestion? "Go to her door. Beg like a human."

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Old December 17 2012, 06:52 AM   #1730
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Of course the real highlight of the episode was when THIS girl came on the screen. Hummina hummina.
http://tng.trekcore.com/gallery/albu...dauphin061.jpg
Isn't that Mädchen Amick (who starred on "Twin Peaks" shortly after)?
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Old December 17 2012, 07:00 AM   #1731
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Of course the real highlight of the episode was when THIS girl came on the screen. Hummina hummina.
http://tng.trekcore.com/gallery/albu...dauphin061.jpg
Isn't that Mädchen Amick (who starred on "Twin Peaks" shortly after)?
Certainly is!
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Old December 17 2012, 11:02 AM   #1732
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Isn't that Mädchen Amick (who starred on "Twin Peaks" shortly after)?
That's a weird first name, actually. "Mädchen" is pure german and means "little girl".
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Old December 17 2012, 07:07 PM   #1733
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aye! Madchen is smokin hot!


My favorite part of that episode is Worf confronting the old lady/beast.
Then later when she suggests they'd be a formidable combo in combat.
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Old December 18 2012, 01:33 AM   #1734
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aye! Madchen is smokin hot!
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Old December 18 2012, 01:48 AM   #1735
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She's aged very well.
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Old December 18 2012, 06:26 AM   #1736
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Its an element that has already been found and re-composited in Season 1 here, its just been flipped for the Yamato. Really stuck out like a sore thumb to me.
Good catch. I didn't notice it at first viewing. The fact that it's the same shot and angle both in the wide shot and the viewscreen adds an error that wasn't in the original. It didn't stick out though, unlike the CGI Enterprise.

I always liked the dark lighting of the Enterprise in that episode. Though it and Yamato no longer appear purple in the remaster.

I notice that the impulse engine is orange in this shot, similar to CBS-D's work in season 1, inconsistent with HTV's usual work of making it red.
http://tng.trekcore.com/hd/albums/2x...ase_hd_314.jpg

This comparison makes me wince:

http://tng.trekcore.com/hd/albums/1x...int_hd_013.jpg
http://tng.trekcore.com/hd/albums/2x...ase_hd_107.jpg
DVD: http://tng.trekcore.com/gallery/albu...silence053.jpg

I take a look at HTV's efforts, and I think "Bran Ferren - Star Trek V."
http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/a.../tffhd1004.jpg
http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/a.../tffhd1699.jpg

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Old December 18 2012, 11:15 AM   #1737
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I take a look at HTV's efforts, and I think "Bran Ferren - Star Trek V."
http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/a.../tffhd1004.jpg
http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/a.../tffhd1699.jpg
Yup. Their work made me think the same thing.
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Old December 18 2012, 12:17 PM   #1738
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I just finished watching the entire set and I have enjoyed it quite a bit. I loved revisiting this series and it is much stronger than I rememberd. The latter part had some brilliant character moments.

To me it seems that near the end of the season HTV seemed to be getting the hang of the remastering job. Episodes like The Emissary, Peak Performance and Shades of Grey looked fabulous. Less DNR-ing of effects scenes, better detail on the effects work, better planets and very faithful to the original work.

I think there could be a number of explanations for this. One, CBS had the advantage of figuring out and perfecting the remastering process when they prepared the sampler disc. When they started work on season 1 they had the experience of working on those three episodes behind them, which HTV obviously didn't. The people at HTV had to perfect the process as they were working on the season, hence the mixed results in the earlier half and the improvement near the end.
Two, CBS had some words with the people at HTV illuminate after they'd seen their work and told them to put their backs into it. Perhaps some people at CBS-D even supervised some of the work or at least advized them on how to improve the material and get it more in line with the work done on season 1.

Did anyone notice the improvement as the season neared its end and what are your thoughts on this?
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Old December 18 2012, 12:45 PM   #1739
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I think there could be a number of explanations for this. One, CBS had the advantage of figuring out and perfecting the remastering process when they prepared the sampler disc. When they started work on season 1 they had the experience of working on those three episodes behind them, which HTV obviously didn't. The people at HTV had to perfect the process as they were working on the season, hence the mixed results in the earlier half and the improvement near the end.
This argument does not really hold up. EaF was the first episode CBS-D completed and it looks absolutely fabulous! HTV didn't get anywhere near that level of quality.
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Old December 18 2012, 01:14 PM   #1740
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I think there could be a number of explanations for this. One, CBS had the advantage of figuring out and perfecting the remastering process when they prepared the sampler disc. When they started work on season 1 they had the experience of working on those three episodes behind them, which HTV obviously didn't. The people at HTV had to perfect the process as they were working on the season, hence the mixed results in the earlier half and the improvement near the end.
This argument does not really hold up. EaF was the first episode CBS-D completed and it looks absolutely fabulous! HTV didn't get anywhere near that level of quality.
Totally agree, from the go season 1 looked astounding. I watched peak performance last night and the effects work suffer from the same problems that plague the whole season. Watched all but Shades of Grey and not one single shot I've seen so far can compete with the work done by CBS D.
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