zippers and carpet seams = new revelations in HD on TNG-R

[Mott the barber]

trekker670 wrote:

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I think a lot of the makeup and hair issues are a problem with the spandex jumpsuit. I think once they add the collar in season 3 I think a lot less of these will be noticeable.

Yeah, you always hear in interviews with the cast how uncomfortable those original spandex uniforms were (back problems, etc.) but in hi-def you can see it more how tight they are as a one piece. I can see how it seems to pull down on the actor's shoulders which would cause pain in the back after a 16 hour shoot.

[trekker670]

I just finished watching "Conspiracy" and I noticed that in the scene in Quinn's quarters, when he's fighting Worf and throws him across the room, over the table and towards the replicator, when the stunt double hits the floor, he rolls into the replicator and you can visibly see the whole thing slide back.

I also found it interesting that they didn't fix up the stop-motion animation for the creatures.

[trekker670]

I just finished the season with "The Neutral Zone" and I noticed a few things:

1) In the scene on where Data returns to the bridge as the Enterprise gets to the neutral zone, you can see a glob of makeup on Brent Spiner's right eyebrow.

2) In the scene where Offennhouse is wondering the coridors and enter the turbolift, at he top of the doors you can see 2 small "peep" holes just to either side of the seam where the two doors meet

3) In the scene where Picard is talking to the Romulans on the viewscreen, when they cut to the shot from behind and above Picard facing the viewscreen, you can see Stewart's marks on the floor between con and ops.



Overall there are some odd things about this episode, particularly when it comes to security measures aboard the Enterprise. Guests seem to be able to wander around and access computers as they desire (explained as humans in the 24th century having self control). The Offennhouse is able to call the captain on a whim and just walks right onto the bridge. The kicker is that the chief of security along with at least 2 additional security officers are on the bridge and just stand there as he enters (granted they were probably distracted with the Romulans), but when Picard tells them to get him off the bridge, as soon as begins to resist they give up and 10 minutes later after he interrupts the conversation between Picard and the Romulans, when he's ready to leave, then they escort him off the bridge. Strange indeed, but overall this was a good episode as far as the Romulan plot goes.

[JJohnson]

davejames wrote:

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I'm noticing a lot more splotches and marks on the bridge carpet. Such as when Data falls to the floor in Justice.

And when Data pulls the chinese fingertrap off his finger in Last Outpost, you can clear see that the makeup has come off to reveal his normal skin color.

Little stuff like that - that's what CG color correction should be used for!

[JJohnson]

trekker670 wrote:

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I just finished watching "Conspiracy" and I noticed that in the scene in Quinn's quarters, when he's fighting Worf and throws him across the room, over the table and towards the replicator, when the stunt double hits the floor, he rolls into the replicator and you can visibly see the whole thing slide back.

I also found it interesting that they didn't fix up the stop-motion animation for the creatures.

That's what CGI was designed for! Replace it with a new CG creature!

[jefferiestubes8]

Ghostface1701 wrote:

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There's dirt on the floor, the bottom of the hand-rails aren't painted, my childhood is ruined!

Nice catch Ghostface1701. I've reposted it here from the Season TWO OFFICIAL TNG Blu-Ray Discussion Thread.

[T'Preea]

I noticed how when Picard took the Chinese finger trap off Data's fingers, the make-up had rubbed off and you could see Spiner's real skin tone. I also noticed that Spiner's nipples are unusually perky in his uniform. *blush*

[Tom Riley]

jefferiestubes8 wrote:

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Nice catch Ghostface1701. I've reposted it here from the Season TWO OFFICIAL TNG Blu-Ray Discussion Thread.

Not just that, but look at the very bottom of the right hand wall... Is that the edge of the carpet? Is there just a gap under the bottom of the wall?

[T'Girl]

^ I think the wall is intended to have a rounded undercut like that, it isn't a mistake. Although the base panel could be better painted.

[inflatabledalek]

Troi's new season 2 uniform looks suspiciously like it's made out of carpet in HD. Poor Marina.

[Shazam!]

I like that skant / trousers uniform variant.

[Tom Riley]

Merry Christmas wrote:

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^ I think the wall is intended to have a rounded undercut like that, it isn't a mistake. Although the base panel could be better painted.

I know it's supposed to curve in like that, I meant that bit of black you could see at what looks like the edge of the carpet, there's so little of the baseboard showing there but enough that it looks like SOMETHING, almost like floor continuing from the edge of the carpet. I suppose they didn't think the baseboard would be seen at all, like the underside of the railing.

[3chordboy]

trekker670 wrote:

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This one's debatable, but I think you can see some sort of drapery or perhaps even a reflection of some equipment out the conference room windows. At first I thought it was a reflection in the windows, but it doesn't appear to change with the angle of the camera at all.

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its the plant but with the curved glass it is distorted

[JJohnson]

JJohnson wrote:

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Little stuff like that - that's what CG color correction should be used for!

That's exactly what TNG on BR should be used for. Color correct and digitally 'erase' errors in the sets...erase marks, make the monitors more 'alive', erase those black covers on the back stations, correct makeup rubbing off, etc. They should've made the monitors on the TOS bridge look more alive rather than as the gel sheets they were.

[BillJ]

JJohnson wrote:

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They should've made the monitors on the TOS bridge look more alive rather than as the gel sheets they were.

No, they really shouldn't. They needed to respect the work all those people did all those years ago. If you need artificial blinkies that look more modern, go watch *Star Trek 2009.

* Not a slam at the film.