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Old December 15 2012, 07:43 PM   #1711
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Re: Season TWO OFFICIAL TNG Blu-Ray Discussion Thread

I don't have a problem with grain, but that shot of Maddox on the bridge in Measure of a Man is so incredibly noisy and excessive with grain it stands out like a sore thumb.

All we're asking is that they tone some of that down a little, so those shots look more consistent with the surrounding ones.
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Old December 15 2012, 08:01 PM   #1712
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Anyway, I watched "The Dauphin" for the first time in forever, and it was just about as dull as I remembered. Although I will say Wheaton does a pretty decent job with what he's given (Wesley is still a clueless geek, but at least he's a more likeable and less obnoxious one than in the first season).

And the planet and Holodeck effects sequence looked pretty good too.

Of course the real highlight of the episode was when THIS girl came on the screen. Hummina hummina.
http://tng.trekcore.com/gallery/albu...dauphin061.jpg
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Old December 16 2012, 01:36 AM   #1713
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Just watched the Icarus Factor and have a new highlight for Season Two.

THOLIAN REFERENCE!
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Old December 16 2012, 03:52 AM   #1714
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Just watched the Icarus Factor and have a new highlight for Season Two.

THOLIAN REFERENCE!
That's about the best thing out of that episode, honestly.
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Old December 16 2012, 12:30 PM   #1715
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Jeyl wrote: View Post
Just watched the Icarus Factor and have a new highlight for Season Two.

THOLIAN REFERENCE!
That's about the best thing out of that episode, honestly.
After finishing the episode, I agree. Daddy issues are cheap and by the dozen. At least I can now call Riker a bloody hypocrite in "A Matter of Honor".
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Old December 16 2012, 01:08 PM   #1716
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*Finished watching "Q Who"*

Huh. They put First Contact/Voyager style Borg alcoves in the pan out shot of the Borg Ship interior. Weird choice.
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Old December 16 2012, 01:10 PM   #1717
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Most likely just due to re-using old CG elements. Surely.
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Old December 16 2012, 07:04 PM   #1718
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^ No, just a stupid attempt to reconcile the different Borg styles.
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Old December 16 2012, 08:25 PM   #1719
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Saw the caps on TrekCore so I watched 'Where Silence Has Lease' this afternoon, hard to get this one wrong because the Enterprise is darkly lit for the majority of the episode. The probe launch and CGI replacement model I can forgive, even the very noticeable matte lines, but the model element used for the Yamato was completely wrong.

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The new one just looked ridiculous from an angle because its a head on shot of the ship.

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Its an element that has already been found and re-composited in Season 1 here, its just been flipped for the Yamato. Really stuck out like a sore thumb to me.

Take a look at the Viewscreen shots as well, the colour bleed from the blue screen is dire.

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Old December 16 2012, 08:36 PM   #1720
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I had a $25 Amazon gift card, so I paid $39.99 for the set. I sold the DVD set for around $20, so I paid $19.99 to upgrade. I'm glad I did.

So far, I've seen the 1st two episodes. Yes, I notice the mediocre effects shots, and the disparity in smoothed-vs.-natural live shots, and am disappointed in them.

Yet, overall the increase in resolution, color accuracy, and lossless audio make it a worthwhile investment.
I have to revise my opinion. As I get further into the set, the flaws are more noticeable. Last night I watched Measure, surely one of everyone's favorite episodes in all of Trek history. I was constantly distracted by the shifting PQ, from sharp and grainy to smooth and glassy, by the poor compositing, and by the overly bright ship shots that lack depth.

I know everyone has already mentioned these issues numerous times, but even though I paid a small price to upgrade, I'm getting more and more disappointed w/ this set.
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Old December 16 2012, 08:39 PM   #1721
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MickJo1701 wrote: View Post
Saw the caps on TrekCore so I watched 'Where Silence Has Lease' this afternoon, hard to get this one wrong because the Enterprise is darkly lit for the majority of the episode. The probe launch and CGI replacement model I can forgive, even the very noticeable matte lines, but the model element used for the Yamato was completely wrong.

Original
Remastered

The new one just looked ridiculous from an angle because its a head on shot of the ship.

Original
Remastered

Its an element that has already been found and re-composited in Season 1 here, its just been flipped for the Yamato. Really stuck out like a sore thumb to me.
Didn't notice it at the time, but now that you point it out, it does look weird.
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Old December 17 2012, 12:38 AM   #1722
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MickJo1701 wrote: View Post
Saw the caps on TrekCore so I watched 'Where Silence Has Lease' this afternoon, hard to get this one wrong because the Enterprise is darkly lit for the majority of the episode. The probe launch and CGI replacement model I can forgive, even the very noticeable matte lines, but the model element used for the Yamato was completely wrong.

Original
Remastered

The new one just looked ridiculous from an angle because its a head on shot of the ship.

Original
Remastered

Its an element that has already been found and re-composited in Season 1 here, its just been flipped for the Yamato. Really stuck out like a sore thumb to me.
Didn't notice it at the time, but now that you point it out, it does look weird.
I didn't notice anything wrong when I watched this episode and I can't see what you're complaining about.
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Old December 17 2012, 12:40 AM   #1723
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MickJo1701 wrote: View Post
Saw the caps on TrekCore so I watched 'Where Silence Has Lease' this afternoon, hard to get this one wrong because the Enterprise is darkly lit for the majority of the episode. The probe launch and CGI replacement model I can forgive, even the very noticeable matte lines, but the model element used for the Yamato was completely wrong.

Original
Remastered

The new one just looked ridiculous from an angle because its a head on shot of the ship.

Original
Remastered

Its an element that has already been found and re-composited in Season 1 here, its just been flipped for the Yamato. Really stuck out like a sore thumb to me.

Take a look at the Viewscreen shots as well, the colour bleed from the blue screen is dire.

Sorry dude, the new one looks a lot better.
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Old December 17 2012, 12:43 AM   #1724
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davejames wrote: View Post
Anyway, I watched "The Dauphin" for the first time in forever, and it was just about as dull as I remembered. Although I will say Wheaton does a pretty decent job with what he's given (Wesley is still a clueless geek, but at least he's a more likeable and less obnoxious one than in the first season).

And the planet and Holodeck effects sequence looked pretty good too.

Of course the real highlight of the episode was when THIS girl came on the screen. Hummina hummina.
http://tng.trekcore.com/gallery/albu...dauphin061.jpg
Honestly, the new FX for Dauphin in the asteroid field are breathtaking. This was always on my list of top FX sequences in STNG and now even moreso.

There are still 3-4 episodes I havent watched. Must get on it!
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Old December 17 2012, 12:45 AM   #1725
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MickJo1701 wrote: View Post
Saw the caps on TrekCore so I watched 'Where Silence Has Lease' this afternoon, hard to get this one wrong because the Enterprise is darkly lit for the majority of the episode. The probe launch and CGI replacement model I can forgive, even the very noticeable matte lines, but the model element used for the Yamato was completely wrong.
*whistle*

Nice catch there Mick. Even ex-astris-scientia missed it in their comparisons.
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