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Old December 14 2012, 05:48 AM   #91
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I'm pretty sure that their dad was a Nazi sympathizer.
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Old December 14 2012, 06:10 AM   #92
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If they ever give Amy Farah Fowler a sister on the Big Bang Theory, Eden Sher would be a natural. And of course Penny's sister should be played by Linda Park.
Right, and how would this be different than Linda Park playing a Japanese character?
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Old December 14 2012, 06:13 AM   #93
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I'm pretty sure that their dad was a Nazi sympathizer.
Who's dad? Luke and Leia? Michael and Sonny? Ferris and Jeanie?
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Old December 14 2012, 06:18 AM   #94
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And, regarding Ben's cure, it seems that the real simple explanation would be that the cure could work but something disastrous has to happen. Like a life has to be traded for a life or something; or it was only Doom's physiology that made the machine work in the first place.
Well, that doesn't make it a sacrifice, just makes him feel guilty. The most straight forward thing would be that he chooses not to cure himself in order to save the day and the cure is lost in the process. Although I don't think they need to have a cure at all.
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Old December 14 2012, 06:23 AM   #95
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And, regarding Ben's cure, it seems that the real simple explanation would be that the cure could work but something disastrous has to happen. Like a life has to be traded for a life or something; or it was only Doom's physiology that made the machine work in the first place.
Well, that doesn't make it a sacrifice, just makes him feel guilty. The most straight forward thing would be that he chooses not to cure himself in order to save the day and the cure is lost in the process. Although I don't think they need to have a cure at all.
Agreed. In fact, both your suggestions and mine have been used in various stories. In the comics, Ben has had many cures, all of which have failed for one reason or another.
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Old December 14 2012, 05:19 PM   #96
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And Alba's skin tone is so pale that she could be from any European country.
When she's a brunette, I can see that. But dyeing her hair blond made her look more Latina to me than she usually does, somehow. Maybe all I'm saying is that she didn't look natural as a blonde.

But like I said, my problem was more with Evans's lack of resemblance to Alba than the reverse. I resent the way everyone's trying to read some kind of ugly racism into my words, making the false assumption that it was Alba's ethnicity I had a problem with. All I'm saying is that to me, in that movie, Alba and Evans didn't look related. I'm not saying anything about what's possible in real life, because we're not talking about real life, we're talking about a work of fiction, and it's about impressions. As a rule, if you're casting siblings, you try to cast them to resemble each other. That's not a race thing, it's just a general casting thing. As I've said over and over, I would've been fine with recasting either Johnny or Sue, or both. It is not about Alba specifically the way the rest of you keep trying to make it. I'm sorry if I inadvertently reminded you of some issues that are troubling to you, but that wasn't my intention. Obviously I've miscommunicated something. This is becoming a bigger deal than I ever intended. It's not that important to me, just a subjective impression. And I'm certainly willing to concede that my impressions could be in error. So maybe we should just wrap it up and move on.
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Old December 14 2012, 05:43 PM   #97
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^Well, if it helps any, I've read enough of your posts to know that you're definitely not racist or prejudiced in any way.

I didn't find Evans and Alba convincing as siblings either, in the same way that I didn't find Sean Connery, Dustin Hoffman and Matthew Broderick convincing as grandfather, father and (grand)son.
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Old December 14 2012, 05:48 PM   #98
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^Well, if it helps any, I've read enough of your posts to know that you're definitely not racist or prejudiced in any way.

I didn't find Evans and Alba convincing as siblings either, in the same way that I didn't find Sean Connery, Dustin Hoffman and Matthew Broderick convincing as grandfather, father and (grand)son.
Whenever we watch the original 1941 version of The Wolf Man, my girlfriend always snickers at the idea that Claude Rains (small, delicate, and British) is supposed to be the father of Lon Chaney Jr. (big, burly, and American).

Granted, they throw in a line of dialogue about how Lon was educated in America . . . .
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Old December 14 2012, 05:52 PM   #99
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^ Clearly the makers of the more recent version felt the need to continue the trend by casting Anthony Hopkins as the father of Benicio Del Toro!
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Old December 14 2012, 05:54 PM   #100
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^Well, if it helps any, I've read enough of your posts to know that you're definitely not racist or prejudiced in any way.
Thank you.


I didn't find Evans and Alba convincing as siblings either, in the same way that I didn't find Sean Connery, Dustin Hoffman and Matthew Broderick convincing as grandfather, father and (grand)son.
What movie was that?

I'm not sure I buy Shia LaBeouf as Harrison Ford and Karen Allen's son in the fourth Indiana Jones movie either. Although it's not as bad a mismatch as trying to pass off Sean Patrick Flanery as a younger version of Indy himself. River Phoenix was utterly convincing as a younger Ford in Last Crusade, but Flanery looked and sounded nothing like either of them. (I wonder, if Phoenix hadn't died so young, would he have played Young Indy in the show? He would've been the right age by then, I think.)
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Old December 14 2012, 05:57 PM   #101
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^ Clearly the makers of the more recent version felt the need to continue the trend by casting Anthony Hopkins as the father of Benicio Del Toro!
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Old December 14 2012, 06:10 PM   #102
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I didn't find Evans and Alba convincing as siblings either, in the same way that I didn't find Sean Connery, Dustin Hoffman and Matthew Broderick convincing as grandfather, father and (grand)son.
What movie was that?
Family Business. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0097328/

I'm not sure I buy Shia LaBeouf as Harrison Ford and Karen Allen's son in the fourth Indiana Jones movie either.
Hmm, while there's much I dislike about that movie, I thought physically Shia wasn't a bad bit of casting. He has a similarly prominent nose to Ford and Allen's colouring.

Although it's not as bad a mismatch as trying to pass off Sean Patrick Flanery as a younger version of Indy himself. River Phoenix was utterly convincing as a younger Ford in Last Crusade, but Flanery looked and sounded nothing like either of them. (I wonder, if Phoenix hadn't died so young, would he have played Young Indy in the show? He would've been the right age by then, I think.)
I agree about Phoenix (who had earlier played Ford's son in The Mosquite Coast) and Flannery. I remember when the idea of a Young Indiana series was mooted, there was talk of Phoenix reprising his role. However, I think he was too big a movie star by that stage to take a regular tv gig, even if it was as Indiana Jones.
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Old December 14 2012, 06:29 PM   #103
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Oh, that's right, Young Indy premiered a year and a half before Phoenix died. I'd forgotten that.

For what it's worth, I did think that Corey Carrier, the actor playing the preadolescent Indy, was credible as a younger Ford. He seemed to have a similar speech cadence and delivery to Ford, unlike Flanery.
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^Of course, we've neglected to comment on the fact that Indy's dad was played by Sean Connery, who is a mere 12 years older than Harrison Ford!
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Well, Ford was older than Indy. The character was born on July 1, 1899 according to the premiere episode of Young Indy, which means that he was 38 or 39 years old in Last Crusade, whereas Ford was 46 at the time. So if Henry Sr. was the same age as Connery, he would've been around 20 years older than his son.
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