The Outrageous Okona

[JirinPanthosa]

The problem with that episode is that they didn't make Okana convincingly likable. His pickup line to Terri Hatcher was embarrassing and obviously written by people who've never personally had success flirting with women. It wasn't believable that everyone thought he was so cool and that he was good at picking up women.

[Epsilon IX]

I would have to agree with SFDebris' conclusion in his review of this episode: Go to the annual Columbus Day parade instead!

[Jeyl]

Epsilon IX wrote:

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I would have to agree with SFDebris' conclusion in his review of this episode: Go to the annual Columbus Day parade instead!

I never got that joke.

[tomalak301]

Epsilon IX wrote:

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I would have to agree with SFDebris' conclusion in his review of this episode: Go to the annual Columbus Day parade instead!

Ha? A lot of people work that day, though.

Of course I'm probably completely missing the point of the joke, but oh well

[Mott the barber]

Overall, this episode isn't as bad as I remember. There is worse. Data with the cigar still gives me a chuckle.

[King Daniel Into Darkness]

BillJ wrote:

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Whoever gave the go-ahead for this episode deserves to be beaten with a bag of oranges.

This. It was sucktacular.

[trekker670]

It's not a terrible episode, but it definitely doesn't really keep my attention. The funny thing is, I was watching it and my roommate walked in towards the end and summarized the A story pretty well as a cross between a Soap Opera and a High School Drama.

[Kegg]

sonak wrote:

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the character is a laughable failure as a "charming rogue" type. It's a sure sign that he's not one if the episode keeps TELLING you over and over again what a charming rogue he is.

A problem early TNG has a lot of, I've found watching the HD broadcasts. In "The Schizoid Man" we meet a dickish, rude, unpleasant, bigoted old man who everyone agrees that their impression of him is 'brilliant', despite the fact the single time he evinces anything remotely resembling brilliance it's his hijacking of Data's brain, a secret until near the end of the episode.

Or "Loud As A Whisper", which gives us a cocksure negotiator who brushes off the very idea of researching the origins of a conflict as being irrelevant to his job yet is so amazing at it people who've literally never seen him refuse to have their negotiations handled by anyone else and he's responsible for adding the word 'peacemaker' to the Klingon vocabulary.

Forbin wrote:

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Yeah. Joe Piscopo as the ultimate comedian role model.
That required more suspension of disbelief than I'm capable of.

In fairness to the episode the ultimate role model was said to be some guy who's great at quantum mechanics jokes. Joe comes up when Data asks for something more lowbrow instead (but he is indeed terrible).

[Forbin]

^I remember an SNL where the guest star was Don Rickles, the ad-lib king. Piscopo became his victim, and (IIRC) couldn't come up with a single come-back during the whole show. It was brutal, hysterical, and it really showed Piscopo's limits.

[R. Star]

JirinPanthosa wrote:

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The problem with that episode is that they didn't make Okana convincingly likable. His pickup line to Terri Hatcher was embarrassing and obviously written by people who've never personally had success flirting with women. It wasn't believable that everyone thought he was so cool and that he was good at picking up women.

He would have been more believable with, "Hi, I am Okona and I have a twelve inch penis. Wanna see?" Then at least Terri Hatcher would have a plausible reason for falling for him.

[The Castellan]

Star Grinch wrote:

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He would have been more believable with, "Hi, I am Okona and I have a twelve inch penis. Wanna see?" Then at least Terri Hatcher would have a plausible reason for falling for him.

Well, I often see dudes getting slapped or sometimes even pepper sprayed by chicks in the bars/clubs when they try a line like that one.

[indolover]

meh...

the only good thing was seeing a young Teri Hatcher.

[R. Star]

The Castellan wrote:

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Well, I often see dudes getting slapped or sometimes even pepper sprayed by chicks in the bars/clubs when they try a line like that one.

That wouldn't have hurt the episode either.

[sonak]

Star Grinch wrote:

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He would have been more believable with, "Hi, I am Okona and I have a twelve inch penis. Wanna see?" Then at least Terri Hatcher would have a plausible reason for falling for him.

er, I would think that line wouldn't work very often, it's way too obvious and the only women I'd think you'd get who'd actually fall for it would have IQs near the single digits. I mean, wouldn't they at least just ask the guy to whip it out for them before agreeing to go on a date or something?

[R. Star]

sonak wrote:

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er, I would think that line wouldn't work very often, it's way too obvious and the only women I'd think you'd get who'd actually fall for it would have IQs near the single digits. I mean, wouldn't they at least just ask the guy to whip it out for them before agreeing to go on a date or something?

The point I was making, as dumb as it is, it's more genuine and has a more realistic chance of working than the crap the character pulled in the episode.